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Old 11-04-2007, 06:13 PM
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Wow!! You are quite the pro at taking people's posts and digging them apart point by point.
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Oh well...I guess what I was trying to say by "unlearned understanding", and as you pointed out so well, it really didn't make any sense, was that I am not as smart as you and some of the others here. Not sure why I bother...please excuse my inept way of responding.
Oh stop that, you're a genius and you know it. Must you be so coy.

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But I didn't mean my posts to come off as "trying to correct" you...forgive me if you felt you were bing "corrected."
Hey it's all good just go and present what you would like to discuss, and stop saying you're not smart. I know that you are smart I have been reading your posts for over three years? It may be more.

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Old 11-04-2007, 06:15 PM
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Oh stop that, you're a genius and you know it. Must you be so coy.



Hey it's all good just go and present what you would like to discuss, and stop saying you're not smart. I know that you are smart I have been reading your posts for over three years? It may be more.

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So now you're trying to get on my good side...what are we to do with you, Bro. Beni?!
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:15 PM
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You're taking a little for granted there Bro. Beni.

If you'll read a little more carefully you'll see that I was correcting the idea that Deborah led Barak or the troops because the fact is she did not.

If you'll read a little more carefully you'll see that I made the point very distinctly that Deborah encouraged and went with Barak.

Barak was called to lead. Deborah encouraged him in what God told him to do and then accompanied him.

Encouraged? Sister, Barak wanted to take Deborah as almost a lucky charm.
No offence Sister.
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:16 PM
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So now you're trying to get on my good side...what are we to do with you, Bro. Beni?!
Get on a good side?
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:17 PM
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You're taking a little for granted there Bro. Beni.

If you'll read a little more carefully you'll see that I was correcting the idea that Deborah led Barak or the troops because the fact is she did not.

If you'll read a little more carefully you'll see that I made the point very distinctly that Deborah encouraged and went with Barak.

Barak was called to lead. Deborah encouraged him in what God told him to do and then accompanied him.
That's what I thought you were saying when I read your post...
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:18 PM
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Encouraged? Sister, Barak wanted to take Deborah as almost a lucky charm.
No offence Sister.
I'm sure he wanted to take her .... LOL .... but she also encouraged him in his calling.
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:18 PM
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Get on a good side?
Are you trying to say you didn't know I had one?!
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:20 PM
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Sorry you're wrong, those scriptures are NOT saying that Deborah lead the armies into battle.

Jdg 5:12-13 Awake, awake, Deborah: awake, awake, utter a song: arise, BARAK, AND LEAD THY CAPTIVITY CAPTIVE, thou son of Abinoam. Then he made him that remaineth have dominion over the nobles among the people: the LORD made me have dominion over the mighty.


Arise, Barak, and lead thy captivity captive, thou son of Abinoam; for though the whole army of Sisera was destroyed, that not a man was left, Jdg_4:16 yet as BARAK PURSUED to Harosheth of the Gentiles, many there and in other places which fell into his hands, that belonged to Jabin, might be taken captive by him; and though the Canaanites were to be slain, yet they might first be led captive in triumph; and besides, there might be some of other nations that were taken by him in this war; see Psa_68:18.
Gill Notes.

Barak is the one who led the armies, that was the reason Barak was called in the first place. Because Barak wanted to take a woman into battle, Barak forfeits the chance to have sole victory. The victory is placed in the hands of Jael. Hebrews chapter 11 only records Barak. The two women Deborah and Jael are found nowhere in the chapter. Obviously the writer of Hebrews didn't share your opinion.

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Obviously, the culture of the scriptures is very paternalist, many times the men in scripture were abusive to women. This is no more God's perfect culture than was slavery in scripture, His perfect will.

BTW: The way that you talk down to women, seems to be perfectly in line with the paternalist culture of the scripture, but it does not make it right.

Just my observations, take them constructively or throw them out, as you see fit. God bless.
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:22 PM
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I heard some wonderful speaking/preaching at this year's Gen. Conf. by women. It was an awesome service and they did a fantastic job.

Kudos to anointed God called women who know how to touch people and affect the kingdom of God through their anointing, passion and ability to communicate the Word of God.
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:24 PM
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I heard some wonderful speaking/preaching at this year's Gen. Conf. by women. It was an awesome service and they did a fantastic job.

Kudos to anointed God called women who know how to touch people and affect the kingdom of God through their anointing, passion and ability to communicate the Word of God.
I bought the DVDs and can concur...they were powerful!!

All of the speakers were great, but Sis. Freeman and Sis. Mangun...whoa!!
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