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But have admitted to being a Vulcan?
You mean after I used my mind meld on you?
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Rev. Smith is gonna show up again and complain again about his thread being hijacked. Smith...sorry. I meant Anderson. It's "Anderson" right?
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You mean after I used my mind meld on you?
Never mind. This gets us back on track again.
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Re: Oneness Pentecostal Apologetics Conference

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What is a Oneness Pentecostal Apologetic? Is it specific to Oneness theology?

Most apologetic symposium answer and interact with Timmy-like questions. If God is good why is there suffering in the world? How do we know he's real? etc... Does this conference focus solely on the godhead?
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Back to the topic.

What is a Oneness Pentecostal Apologetic? Is it specific to Oneness theology?

Most apologetic symposium answer and interact with Timmy-like questions. If God is good why is there suffering in the world? How do we know he's real? etc... Does this conference focus solely on the godhead?
Isn't the godhead "good" despite the suffering we see in the world? Isn't this aspect of Deity worthy of consideration?

In my opinion, DKB actually laid down the first credible framework for a "Oneness Apologetic" back when he published his "Trinitarian Controversies" books round about 1992 or so.

He was the first to publish a reasoned and accurate look at the development of the doctrine of the Trinity by a Oneness writer. Everyone else simply followed the discredited meme that "Constantine invented the trinity at the Council of Nicea because he worshiped the sun god!"

Bernard understands the subtleties and complexities of the historical development here. Everyone would be well served to touch base with his treatment of the subject before adding to the body of work.
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Bunch of rednecks we all are...
Speak for yourself, Kemosabe ... No hablo ingles.

Reminds me of the Lone Ranger and Tonto joke ...
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canyons when suddenly rising from the hill on their right are hundreds of
indians. They start to spur their horse forward when they realised that there
are hundreds of indians ahead of them. Wheeling to the left they, once
again, see hundreds of indians rising from the hill. They begin to back away
in the direction from which they had come and they realise, they were
surrounded. The indians had spread out. They were trapped.

The Lone Ranger turns to Tonto, his life long friend, and says "Tonto,
my friend, I think I must say that I have treasured our times together
but now I think we are doomed".

" We?" replied Tonto "What's all this we, Paleface?"
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That's what they're doing in this pic. The guy standing up (unnamed) was called out and asked to stand while the preacher "honored" him.

Crazy stuff.

You "railed" about a sermon Scott Graham had preached, and it turns out SG was preaching on the same slab of concrete that a family member of mine had installed 50 years ago.

Meanwhile, you and I - who have never met in person - are connected by the fact that I walked right past the front of your house when you were a kid on my way to preach at a church in NYC.

LY's name comes up here at the moment when another family member of mine is engaged to a family member of his. It's all too weird. We're all related and connected here. We don't even know one another, yet our lives are so intertwined that they can't be untangled. We can't even talk about people without bringing up someone's family or friend.
Six degrees ... more likely 2 degrees of separation, indeed ...

Where did you preach in NYC?
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Re: Oneness Pentecostal Apologetics Conference

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Back to the topic.

What is a Oneness Pentecostal Apologetic? Is it specific to Oneness theology?

Most apologetic symposium answer and interact with Timmy-like questions. If God is good why is there suffering in the world? How do we know he's real? etc... Does this conference focus solely on the godhead?
I believe they tackle a few questions like you mentioned however they have a lecture by DKB on the Oneness, and a debate.

They would be much better served to integrate themselves and work within other groups than to always want to have a group of their own where they continue more inbreeding. This is why I think UGST is a bad idea it just helps to create more inbreeding in the education rather than forced integration with the rest of Christendom.
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Isn't the godhead "good" despite the suffering we see in the world? Isn't this aspect of Deity worthy of consideration?

In my opinion, DKB actually laid down the first credible framework for a "Oneness Apologetic" back when he published his "Trinitarian Controversies" books round about 1992 or so.

He was the first to publish a reasoned and accurate look at the development of the doctrine of the Trinity by a Oneness writer. Everyone else simply followed the discredited meme that "Constantine invented the trinity at the Council of Nicea because he worshiped the sun god!"

Bernard understands the subtleties and complexities of the historical development here. Everyone would be well served to touch base with his treatment of the subject before adding to the body of work.
Even many Trinitarians realize the doctrinal development...even after Constantine got involved it developed. It didn't just drop out of the sky in 325 ad
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Six degrees ... more likely 2 degrees of separation, indeed ...

Where did you preach in NYC?
We already talked about this.
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