A while back I received the left foot of disfellowship from the leader of a group called Ministers Only. The group was deleted from the list of groups on my home page, and I could not access it. I received the following message in my email:
"The posts and discussions that you created was totally against the apostles doctrine. I deleted them due to being so far off from biblical Truth. I encourage a difference of thought and opinion, but the doctrine you presented had nothing in common with the biblical Truth of the apostle's doctrine for salvation."
Back in November 2008 the administrator of another Apostolic group sent me the following message to my email:
"Your discussion is being removed and I would ask that you never discuss the plan of salvation on ----------. This is a topic that is handled by our Pastors and ministers, not left up for discussion in a forum where false teachings can be propagated.
"Should this violation occur again, please note that we will have no other choice but to remove you from the site."
I have never received a warning like those on this site although I've had a couple of posts deleted (maybe just one) here and received one (I think) warning but not because of doctrine.
Elder, if it's false doctrine, it's a whole lot better for them to bring the issue openly, rather than privately. Don't you think? If these were all ministers, surely they could discuss and challenge each other without throwing a tantrum?
Elder, if it's false doctrine, it's a whole lot better for them to bring the issue openly, rather than privately. Don't you think? If these were all ministers, surely they could discuss and challenge each other without throwing a tantrum?
I just think it has gotten old with some. I have freely discussed doctrine here often and honestly sometimes is has gotten tiring to me then I get a burst of energy and discuss it again. But some see it as an act infutlity since those discussing are not really interested in what we say.
Tina, I agree with Ron. AFF is the Apostolic National Enquirer. It doesn't need to be founded as long as it makes good gossip. As far as the freedom of speech is concerned this is the argument for all the filth we hear on radio and TV. Who cares who it hurts as long as we have the freedom to say it.
I was referencing more his comment about people having to agree with admin. Not even all the admin team here agrees with each other.
I don't come here for all the drama, doctrine that I may agree or disagree with, or gossip. I come here simply because I have friends here from previous forums that have closed-- and this is how we stay in touch with each other.
I do come here for some of the edifying posts made by certain posters-- that lately seem to be sorely lacking. I come here to pray for requests that are shared-- and for the good things I can find-- like the testimony Sis Alvear shared of her healing. I come here when I need prayer... because I know I have friends here who will take my burdens as their own, and take them before God.
People spend way too much of their time here arguing over stupid, insignificant things. I don't read even 1/10 of the posts here anymore. I don't go running around trying to verify what little I do read. Most threads that I open lately, I just simply close and find myself saddened that it's come to be what it has.
What bothers me is the backbiting, criticism, etc that goes on among people who call themselves apostolic Christians. We're all held accountable for what we say (or in this case, post). I am accountable for MY words. Just as every other poster is accountable for their words..... I'll leave it at that.
I just think it has gotten old with some. I have freely discussed doctrine here often and honestly sometimes is has gotten tiring to me then I get a burst of energy and discuss it again. But some see it as an act infutlity since those discussing are not really interested in what we say.
I think many are interested in hearing an opposing viewpoint or challenge. I know I am. That doesn't mean, however, just because it's a challenge means I'm supposed to accept it, without considering its merit.
I seldom get involved in any of these discussions-- but for once, I am going to say something.
Ron, now THAT is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen you make-- and this is how I really feel... and I'm saying it from my real name. Not hiding behind a mask.
That is absolutely NOT true. People post here because they have FREEDOM OF SPEECH here. OPINIONS aren't silenced by the ADMIN team. You can't say that about any other forum you post on. In the past, people have been so intimidated by others-- and threats have been made against some members to the point that they are scared to use an identity that anyone would know who they are because of people who run to some organization or a pastor to tattle on them. THAT is why people are allowed to use anonymous ID's here. That will not change, whether you or anyone else likes it or not.
At least the current admin team members aren't sitting here with our hands on the ban button waiting to kick people off the forum for having a different opinion.
Agreed Tina!
I was shocked to read his post that he thinks everyone has to agree with admin here - like you said, we don't even all agree!
I remember Ferd kidding about his Lortab making him post wild - - makes me wonder if Ron has been taking some Lortab the past couple days.
Everyone knows if you are strong on doctrine and dress codes, you can pretty much get by with anything. That's my take on his direction.
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Originally Posted by BHILL
I've never heard PM tank before when he's preached,I'd bet there's other people at your sisters church who thought he did great.
I think he's really concerned about the direction some of the churches are going with doctrine more than anything else.
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Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
I come here to pray for requests that are shared-- and for the good things I can find-- like the testimony Sis Alvear shared of her healing. I come here when I need prayer... because I know I have friends here who will take my burdens as their own, and take them before God. 
- and you have that right!
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