Polygamy in the Bible

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Aquila

*crickets*

You posted at 12:50 AM and lost your patience at 1:07 AM?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

You posted at 12:50 AM and lost your patience at 1:07 AM?

They wonder why I antagonize them?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

The old west?

Address the issue.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

You posted at 12:50 AM and lost your patience at 1:07 AM?

I didn't "loose my patience". LOL I was poking fun at how quiet it got. Where'd y'all go?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

They wonder why I antagonize them?

You're dodging the points presented.

Now I invite you to answer the questions presented in post #495.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Aquila

As recently as the old west here in the US an incorrigible child could be beaten brutally by parents. And if death occurred and the child was deemed to be delinquent or a threat to society, charges were often dropped. Even up until the past couple decades "spanking" or "whipping" children made them good citizens. If a parent killed their incorrigible child today it would break the civil law of the United States and they would be prosecuted by the United States...but according to God's Law they didn't "sin". They saved society from having to execute the little devil. Biblically a parent has a greater authority over the life of their seed than the state. When the state took this right of parents....well....we get the society we're dealing with now.

So “Old West” society is a model for biblical Christianity? So are you going to next claim that Rooster Cogburn was a good saintly example?

Please, tell me, do you know the difference between SPANKING and STONING? The former is intended to CORRECT. The latter is intended to KILL.

So, from your statement I guess you believe that killing a rebellious kid is NOT a sin, right??

Originally Posted by Aquila

Israel was a theocratic nation preparing to embark on a massive military campaign to take the land from heathen nations. To provoke an Israelite to serve any of these heathen gods would be high treason in time of war. Even today we execute those who commit treason and prosecute those spread treasonous philosophical/political propaganda in time of war. Context!

I did not ask WHY God gave this Law; I asked if it should still be obeyed, and if so, is it a sin.

Now let’s see you answer the REAL question in CONTEXT with the same reasoning you have that’s pro-polygamy….

Originally Posted by Aquila

As recently as the old west it was considered ideal for the "uncle" to marry his brother's widow and care for her and sire children or raise his brother's children.

What’s with you and the “old west"? Are you the president of a Louis L'Amour fan club or something?

The old west is considered as the “wild west.” How is that connotation applicable with biblical Christianity?

Brother, these arguments are silly! AGAIN, we’re talking BIBLE. WHERE DOES IT SAY IT IN THE BIBLE?

Originally Posted by Aquila

Brother....there's nothing wrong with these Laws....unless you view them through a modernist world view and take them out of their intended context.

So there is “NOTHING WRONG” with stoning rebellious kids to death or with killing your family or close friends if they speak against Truth?

Are you for real about this? I doubt it. What you’re suffering is called “cognitive dissonance.” That is why you will actually stand behind such ignorance so long as it seems to support your view. Brother that is contrary to what’s needed to interpret biblical Truth. “Study to show thyself approved unto God…RIGHTLY DIVIDING the Truth….”

Originally Posted by Aquila

Now I invite you to answer the questions presented in post #495.

Coming next....

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

You're dodging the points presented.

Now I invite you to answer the questions presented in post #495.

I will be back tonight I have to get to a fellowship with some church folks.

The thing about the Old West was ridiculous and silly. Elder Burk asked about stoning to death, and you brought up brutal child abuse? Brutal child abuse is the same as stoning? You need to go find a church and get some ministry. All this self help Christianity you guys are into is not helping you.

[TK Burk]

Hey Aquila, so while the Christian "Old West" was beating their kids to death, how did the 'Older East' Church-folk handle rebellious kids?

Maybe that's where the phrase "GO West YOUNG man" came from??

[HappyTown]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Please, answer my question (post #491).

I'll bite....

Deuteronomy 21:18-21: The responsibility to stone to death a rebellious child
• Nowhere in the entire Bible is this law ever said to have been obeyed by a child’s parents. I wonder why?

Death for Cursing Parents

If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 )

Deuteronomy 13:6-10: The responsibility to stone to death your family or close friend if they say something that might lead you to backslide
• Talk about watching what you say!

All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 )

Deuteronomy 25:5-9: The responsibility to marry and bare children with a widowed sister-in-law
• This one would definitely make the family reunions more interesting….

Very!

Nowhere are these specifically said to be prohibited in the New Testament. Consequently, can (or maybe, should) a person still do them? Are they sinning if they do? What do you say?

In some parts of the world stoning someone to death is still practice and put into law. There are many biblical contradictions in fact there are 143 of them. The Bible was written over a period of 1400 to 1800 years by more than 40 different authors. The Bible is a compilation of 66 separate books, divided into two primary divisions, the Old Testament containing 39 books and the New Testament containing 27 books. It is believed that all of the books of the Bible were written under inspiration of the Holy Spirit.



Here are just a few but I can post all if you like or send them to you?? So where does this lead us???? Whats, what in the big realm of things here??? What is sin, when is it a sin????

1. God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works.
Gen 6:6

2. God dwells in chosen temples
2 Chron 7:12,16
God dwells not in temples
Acts 7:48

3. God dwells in light
Tim 6:16
God dwells in darkness
1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2

4. God is seen and heard
Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
Ex 24:9-11
God is invisible and cannot be heard
John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16

5. God is tired and rests
Ex 31:17
God is never tired and never rests
Is 40:28

6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things
Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all things
Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8

7. God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in their heart
Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12

8. God is all powerful
Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
God is not all powerful
Judg 1:19

9. God is unchangeable
James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19
God is changeable
Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/
Ex 33:1,3,17,14

10. God is just and impartial
Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
God is unjust and partial
Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12

I can give them all if you like???


I believe it comes down to this, seek out your own salvation, don't depend on others for answers.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by HappyTown

I'll bite....

Death for Cursing Parents

If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 )

All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 )

Very!

In some parts of the world stoning someone to death is still practice and put into law. There are many biblical contradictions in fact there are 143 of them. The Bible was written over a period of 1400 to 1800 years by more than 40 different authors. The Bible is a compilation of 66 separate books, divided into two primary divisions, the Old Testament containing 39 books and the New Testament containing 27 books. It is believed that all of the books of the Bible were written under inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

Here are just a few but I can post all if you like or send them to you?? So where does this lead us???? Whats, what in the big realm of things here??? What is sin, when is it a sin????

1. God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works.
Gen 6:6

2. God dwells in chosen temples
2 Chron 7:12,16
God dwells not in temples
Acts 7:48

3. God dwells in light
Tim 6:16
God dwells in darkness
1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2

4. God is seen and heard
Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
Ex 24:9-11
God is invisible and cannot be heard
John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16

5. God is tired and rests
Ex 31:17
God is never tired and never rests
Is 40:28

6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things
Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all things
Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8

7. God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in their heart
Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12

8. God is all powerful
Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
God is not all powerful
Judg 1:19

9. God is unchangeable
James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19
God is changeable
Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/
Ex 33:1,3,17,14

10. God is just and impartial
Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
God is unjust and partial
Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12

I can give them all if you like???

I believe it comes down to this, seek out your own salvation, don't depend on others for answers.

What? So there you go; just go with whatever feels right to you. Brother, you REALLY need to study what the Bible says rather than what you think....

Who cares what CULTURES practice? Where talking about what's allowed for CHRISTIANS.

So killing children, spouses, and friends is acceptable practice for a Christian?? Are you for real?

You NEVER answered what I asked. Try going back and rereading what I actually posted....