When the Pharisees Accused Jesus of Being used by the Devil...

Apparently I have missed something in this thread...I am pulling out. This seems to be a more 'personal level' subject that I am clueless about. I would never kick a hurting saint while they were down- I've walked that road myself- not fun.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I think my previous posts make it obvious that I'm doing nothing of the sort. LOL!!! You put the key word in this post--"influenced"!

We can be tempted and influenced, but ultimately, according to God's Word:

Jam 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
Jam 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jam 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Can I ask you what entices him? Hmmmmmm? Who is the father of all lies?
What led to the fall of mankind? It was the one two punch of satan's lies, and man's lust.

You cannot leave out either one.

Here's the rub (presently). I recognize the work of the enemy in any situation that brings destruction in the life of a Christian. I believe the devil is very actively using the oldest military tactic in the book in the last day - divide and conquer.

We had better learn to love and defend each other. Love requires calling evil by its name. Evil wants to destroy those who are hurting.

My goodness people, some of us have more compassion for a pet than we do our own brother and sister! ARGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Do you people know how many times the devil has used "Christians" to hurt other Christians? How many times we play along with his diabolical schemes to destroy the church?

When someone maliciously attacks another person (especially a fellow-Christian) who is hurting, your very first response should be to fight against them. That is compassion in action.

We act like the devil when we kick a brother or sister who is bleeding, hurting, dazed and befuddled. It makes me soooooooooooooooo mad that the devil can play on the worst part of our humanity like that!

Wake up Church!

PP, if you want to give the devil bunches of credit, be my guest. He's evil, but he's nowhere on God's level when it comes to power! He was just an angel, for goodness' sake--not the evil equivalent to God as he would like us to believe.

Look at the words you use--you are proving my point:

"act like the devil"
"we play along with his...schemes"

No one is denying Satan's existence, or his influence, but I DO deny that he has any measure of power that is in any way equivalent to God's power.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Can I ask you what entices him? Hmmmmmm? Who is the father of all lies?
What led to the fall of mankind? It was the one two punch of satan's lies, and man's lust.

You cannot leave out either one.

Here's the rub (presently). I recognize the work of the enemy in any situation that brings destruction in the life of a Christian. I believe the devil is very actively using the oldest military tactic in the book in the last day - divide and conquer.

We had better learn to love and defend each other. Love requires calling evil by its name. Evil wants to destroy those who are hurting.

My goodness people, some of us have more compassion for a pet than we do our own brother and sister! ARGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!

I don't know what you're reacting to, but I don't think its the content of this thread, so why don't you start a thread that addresses what you're really concerned about?

You're talking about having compassion, and I'm talking about recognizing that we are responsible and accountable for our sins. I'm sure the topics could be threaded together in some way, but they are actually different topics.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I don't know what you're reacting to, but I don't think its the content of this thread, so why don't you start a thread that addresses what you're really concerned about?

You're talking about having compassion, and I'm talking about recognizing that we are responsible and accountable for our sins. I'm sure the topics could be threaded together in some way, but they are actually different topics.

I'll walk away.

Hey, I don't have anything against anyone on this forum.
I just don't like the pile-on crud, from any side of any issue. Not saying you did, but its been a wild day already.

I do not believe the devil is all-powerful. I do not wish to give him any credit whatsoever. I just don't want us to be ignorant of his ways.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I'll walk away.

Hey, I don't have anything against anyone on this forum.
I just don't like the pile-on crud, from any side of any issue. Not saying you did, but its been a wild day already.

I don't like assumptions and the knee-jerk reactions that follow. I'm not "piling on" anyone and I don't have a clue what you're talking about.

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Baloney!

If someone tells me that I need to be tolerant of false doctrine, THEY are spouting off devlish doctrine.

When someone piles on a fellow Christian, absolutely knowing that person is already wounded, suffering, and bleeding, THEY are devlish.

I cannot stand injustice, and neither could Christ!!!!!

Would you guys quit being so ignorantly politically correct?!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!

That's the biggest problem in the church today. We are too big a pansies to call sin what it is. We ride the fence because we don't want to hurt someones precious little feelings.

What about when Jesus could turn to Simon and say "Get behind me, SATAN". Hello people!
Even he recognized the devils work in Simon's statement.

I endorse this statement!

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I feel passion ... got something on your mind this morning ... PP?????

He is ashamed at seeing how Rhona is being treated...he sees this as an injustice and it makes his stomach turn!!

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by J-Roc

He is ashamed at seeing how Rhona is being treated...he sees this as an injustice and it makes his stomach turn!!

Thanks for the effort, but please don't speak for me.

Truth is, I can't stand any of it, from any side. I have a horrible past experience that this stirred up. I cannot stand injustice.

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Baloney!

If someone tells me that I need to be tolerant of false doctrine, THEY are spouting off devlish doctrine.

When someone piles on a fellow Christian, absolutely knowing that person is already wounded, suffering, and bleeding, THEY are devlish.

I cannot stand injustice, and neither could Christ!!!!!

Would you guys quit being so ignorantly politically correct?!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!

That's the biggest problem in the church today. We are too big a pansies to call sin what it is. We ride the fence because we don't want to hurt someones precious little feelings.

What about when Jesus could turn to Simon and say "Get behind me, SATAN". Hello people!
Even he recognized the devils work in Simon's statement.

Yes, THEY are doing it, not the devil! It's their own choice to believe and promote deception. The Bible says that the serpent deceived Eve but it also shows God holding Eve responsible for letting the serpent deceive her.

Of course, I don't see what your post has to do with any of the last several posts in this thread.