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Old 10-13-2007, 10:47 PM
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ILG, I am sorry for sidetracking. Please know that I am praying for your husband.
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:15 AM
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ILG, I am sorry for sidetracking. Please know that I am praying for your husband.
Thanks, Bro. Hoover. The sidetracking really does not bother me because these issues need to be discussed regardless.

I agree with what you said. I believe in divine healing. As I thought of this thread an allegory formed in my head.

Two little girls were talking about getting ice cream at Grandpa's. The first little girl said "I got ice cream". The second said "I did not. How did you get it?" The first said "First, I played with blocks and then barbies and then I took a bath." The second said "I took the bath first and then played with legos."

The next time the second girl went to see Grandpa, she tried playing with blocks first and then barbies and then took a bath. Grandpa did not offer her ice cream. She was very disappointed as she followed the formula that the other girl used. The nexy day, she did whatever she wanted and Grandpa gave her ice cream that day.

The moral of the story is that Grandpa does indeed give ice cream, but it doesn't matter whether we play with blocks or barbies first or when we take a bath. It matters on the decisions of Grandpa.

I think the same thing applies here.

Larry I would still like to hear your story. I do praise and thank God for your healing.
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:24 AM
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That is a very good allegory!


Here is Bro Larry's Testimony.

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=5925
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:50 AM
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That is a very good allegory!


Here is Bro Larry's Testimony.

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=5925
Thank you for the link. I read the testimony and to this I fully agree:

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Certainly, the doctors were doing their best, but there just wasn’t a lot they could do. Two of my daughters, LaVonda and Darla, said to me, “Dad, this is not about you; not about what you have done, not about how much faith you have, not about how much you have prayed, or even how much scripture you can quote, (Acts 3:12) it’s about HIM, and what HE did on the cross.” “Yes! Yes! That’s right.” I said. My focus changed right then and there. “Let’s take Communion, and remember Our Lord’s broken body and shed blood.” Like the woman (Mk 5:29) with the issue of blood, I felt within my body, that I was healed of that plague. The next morning, Tuesday, doctors confirmed that my blood count had started rising and Wednesday I went home.
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Thank you for the link. I read the testimony and to this I fully agree:
That is the bottom line and that's why we "GIVE" this all to God. Trust, believe and have faith and give it to God for the outcome!
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Old 10-14-2007, 07:06 PM
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"The problem Larry, is that many, many have the aforementioned mustard seed faith and even greater, believe wholly in His promises, and face long term illness, suffering and death from the illness. It is the human condition that God can and does make exception to at times. To say the exception should be the rule for Christians is damaging and harmful. I have personally seen people lose their faith entirely over this issue."

Now if we are speaking for ourselves, it is possible to understand about the end result of one's illness. Nevertheless, how can we possibly speak for others when there is no way for us to know the depth of one's faith. The end result is in God's word.... if we seek wisdom and understanding, we can receive it for ourselves for all our needs if we can believe.

How can one know what might be preventing others from receiving healing or other needs? There could be an abundance of reasons why one is not receiving... unforgiveness appears to be at the top of the list. The "mind" and the "tongue" are the most overwhelming defenses against faith.
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"The problem Larry, is that many, many have the aforementioned mustard seed faith and even greater, believe wholly in His promises, and face long term illness, suffering and death from the illness. It is the human condition that God can and does make exception to at times. To say the exception should be the rule for Christians is damaging and harmful. I have personally seen people lose their faith entirely over this issue.".
Now if we are speaking for ourselves, it is possible to understand about the end result of one's illness. Nevertheless, how can we possibly speak for others when there is no way for us to know the depth of one's faith. The end result is in God's word.... if we seek wisdom and understanding, we can receive it for ourselves for all our needs if we can believe just as Bro Larry found it for himself.

How can one know what might be preventing others from receiving healing or other needs? There could be an abundance of reasons why one is not receiving... unforgiveness and not walking in love appear to be at the top of the list. The "mind" and the "tongue" are the most overwhelming defenses against faith
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:06 PM
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It worked for me. On June 25, 07, my doctors gave me 120 days to live, it's now been 139 days and I'm still alive. Praise God.
I'm sorry! I miscounted the days, today is 111 days.
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Now if we are speaking for ourselves, it is possible to understand about the end result of one's illness. Nevertheless, how can we possibly speak for others when there is no way for us to know the depth of one's faith. The end result is in God's word.... if we seek wisdom and understanding, we can receive it for ourselves for all our needs if we can believe just as Bro Larry found it for himself.

How can one know what might be preventing others from receiving healing or other needs? There could be an abundance of reasons why one is not receiving... unforgiveness and not walking in love appear to be at the top of the list. The "mind" and the "tongue" are the most overwhelming defenses against faith
Are you saying if someone does not obtain healing, they do not have faith?
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Everyone who asks receives. (Mat 7:8) God cannot make exception to His Word. (Ps 119:89) He always says "YES" to everyone who comes to Him, according to His will. (ll Cor 1:20) He has already said yes to all His good promises. You don't need to wonder what the will of God is, It is written in His Testamant (Will). He always wants everyone to be saved, healed and have all their need met. If you need healing God has already provided it thru Jesus' work. (Mat 8:17; l Pe 2:24; Ps 103:3) You can have it. There are however a few rules, you must comply with in order to receive it.

1) You must come to God. (Heb 4:16)
2) You must ask for what you need. (Mat 7:7)
3) You must exercise a little faith. (Heb 11:6)
4) You must get rid of all condemnation. (Mk 2:5)
5) You must get rid of all unforgivness. (Mk 11:25)
6) You must believe that you will receive what you ask for. (Mk 11:24)
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