Preserving the Institution of Marriage

Originally Posted by Rhoni

That passivist attitude is not what the Bible talks about. Jesus loves the sinner but abhors the sin and make no mistake...no sin will enter heaven. You can stand against the sin and love the person. It is like raising children...if you love them you will dicipline them. Even Jesus Christ disciplines those he loves. If a parent does not discipline and train the children they will bring him shame...

if we let the GLB agenda stand then it will bring America shame.

The problem with this is you are not Jesus, and you are not their parent. We are called to love. By THIS the world knows that we are his, that we LOVE with a Jesus love. You will not win anyone giving them a rule book! But if you demonstrate Jesus agape love, they will see him in you, and glorify the Father.

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by UltraLib

Sis Rhoni, the bible says that Love covers a multitude of sins. All we can do is love them. For God so loved the World, that he gave his son. We got to be willing to give every bit of love we got to win these that are need Christ.

Why would you think from her post she is disagreeing with you?

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by James Griffin

Rudy is your premise that we should stay out of governmental affairs, ie not vote for change?

I would not have a problem with writing letters or such. I do not vote because I believe it is clear that God appoints all authority. Which is not a new understanding but has always been acknowledged.

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by UltraLib

The problem with this is you are not Jesus, and you are not their parent. We are called to love. By THIS the world knows that we are his, that we LOVE with a Jesus love. You will not win anyone giving them a rule book! But if you demonstrate Jesus agape love, they will see him in you, and glorify the Father.

All true as far as agape, but are you honestly proposing a world without rules?

Originally Posted by James Griffin

Why would you think from her post she is disagreeing with you?

I was agreeing with that post, but disagree with some of the ones after.

Originally Posted by James Griffin

All true as far as agape, but are you honestly proposing a world without rules?

No, I am proposing a world where Gods holy spirit rules, instead of man.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

The Bible does instruct to pray for govermental leaders,I certainly wouldn't say the Roman Govt. was God -ordained but Jesus said to Render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's.

Who did Jesus tell where his authority came from when he faced him? The Roman government was ordained by God. All governmental authority is ordained by God. But not all goverment is godly.

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by Rudy

I would not have a problem with writing letters or such. I do not vote because I believe it is clear that God appoints all authority. Which is not a new understanding but has always been acknowledged.

Then perhaps you believe God accidentally made us a republic with the ability to elect our leaders, or it was all some cosmic mistake? Or perhaps you believe casting of lots would be a better system to make sure that only the divine providence had a say so in our leaders?

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by Rudy

Who did Jesus tell where his authority came from when he faced him? The Roman government was ordained by God. All governmental authority is ordained by God. But not all goverment is godly.

Rudy history 101 were Romans allowed to elect their leaders?

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by UltraLib

No, I am proposing a world where Gods holy spirit rules, instead of man.

So you oppose introducing legislature which would recognize same sex marriages? Since that would be adding a rule an all. By your logic we need to leave the status quo alone.