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Old 09-20-2007, 12:17 PM
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What about repentance? Doesn't anyone get convicted anymore over neglect and laziness?
No, their too busy running around the church/
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:18 PM
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I think that there many who would like to change their spouses...I've known some lazy wives for that matter...and here is the solution to both issues...

WE NEED MENTORS>>> Elders (Men & Women) who take the young under them and give advice and lead them...
but IMO, the man plays a critical role as the HEAD of the family....

if he's not leading, it doesnt matter what the wife does.

If he leads, it'll fix things -if it doesnt - something is off in his leadership IMO
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:21 PM
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but IMO, the man plays a critical role as the HEAD of the family....

if he's not leading, it doesnt matter what the wife does.

If he leads, it'll fix things -if it doesnt - something is off in his leadership IMO
There are soooo many varibles to this it's hard to nail it down without knowing the particulars...

What if his wife is just preachy and bossy?

What if she constantly compares him to others??

What if she won't let up and give the man a breaK??

Is he genuinly lazy or is a escape from the reality of his marriage??

So many things add into this.. personally I would have to see both sides
before making a judgement against him or her whatever the case may be...
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:24 PM
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I haven't heard any one preach laziness is a sin lately...have you?

I'm not saying it's not.. but we don't major on the minors at times and then they grow into majors...
I certainly think that when men aren't motivated to support their families and/or they are willing to lay around the house while their wives do all the providing...that it has become a MAJOR!!!!

I do agree that there are also lazy wives. One of my friends shared a little "conviction" with me awhile back...something about...she always makes sure the house is perfect when they have company, and she heard this little nagging voice that told her that she should treat her husband and children just as well as she treats company! I agree. Stay at home mothers and wives should see to their responsibilities just as earnestly as they expect their husbands to provide for them.

And...with that said...I have work to do. Carry on!
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:26 PM
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One point..

Laziness is often a Perception too...
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:37 PM
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I certainly think that when men aren't motivated to support their families and/or they are willing to lay around the house while their wives do all the providing...that it has become a MAJOR!!!!

I do agree that there are also lazy wives. One of my friends shared a little "conviction" with me awhile back...something about...she always makes sure the house is perfect when they have company, and she heard this little nagging voice that told her that she should treat her husband and children just as well as she treats company! I agree. Stay at home mothers and wives should see to their responsibilities just as earnestly as they expect their husbands to provide for them.

And...with that said...I have work to do. Carry on!
explain to me how a woman who works full time to provide for this family is supposed to pick up after them when they are physically capable of picking up after themselves? Where does it say the WOMAN is the maid, cook and chief bottle washer.

Nothing will make me madder, faster than for me to be ON MY WAY HOME from work and I get a call wanting to know what is for dinner and what "plans" do we have for the evening..and I get home and the house is a wreck and there are at least 3 able bodied MALES who could have: 1. put on a load of clothes, 2. taken out the trash 3. cleaned up after themselves in the kitchen 4. picked up any 1 of their 1000s of shoes that are blocking the door 5. cleaned their rooms 6. mowed the grass 7. picked up the junk around the yard...the list is endless...

but they all are just sitting there waiting for ME to feed them


where in the bible does it say that it is MY problem???
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:39 PM
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explain to me how a woman who works full time to provide for this family is supposed to pick up after them when they are physically capable of picking up after themselves? Where does it say the WOMAN is the maid, cook and chief bottle washer.

Nothing will make me madder, faster than for me to be ON MY WAY HOME from work and I get a call wanting to know what is for dinner and what "plans" do we have for the evening..and I get home and the house is a wreck and there are at least 3 able bodied MALES who could have: 1. put on a load of clothes, 2. taken out the trash 3. cleaned up after themselves in the kitchen 4. picked up any 1 of their 1000s of shoes that are blocking the door 5. cleaned their rooms 6. mowed the grass 7. picked up the junk around the yard...the list is endless...

but they all are just sitting there waiting for ME to feed them


where in the bible does it say that it is MY problem???
Um...I believe I said "stay at home" wives and mothers.
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Concerning wife abusers, should there be a prayer meet'n with the offender and perhaps some laying on of hands by the brethern is such a way as to adjust the wrong attitude?
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Concerning wife abusers, should there be a prayer meet'n with the offender and perhaps some laying on of hands by the brethern is such a way as to adjust the wrong attitude?
Good plan.
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Um...I believe I said "stay at home" wives and mothers.
you probably did LOL!!
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