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08-06-2007, 01:54 PM
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08-06-2007, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron
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I see. Responded. 
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08-06-2007, 01:58 PM
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[QUOTE=Pressing-On;207960]I see. Responded. [/QUOTE
No it isn't a sea, it is an Ocean. 
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08-06-2007, 02:00 PM
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[QUOTE=Ron;207965]
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I see. Responded. [/QUOTE
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08-06-2007, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tina
NO KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!
This part of the article is what really stood out to me:
Among the "fun facts" listed on Discovery Health's Web page devoted to the Duggars: A baby has been born in every month except June; the family has gone through about 90,000 diapers, and Michelle Duggar has been pregnant for 126 months -- or 10.5 years-- of her life.
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She must not have any probelms during her pregnancies. I have had several scares with both of mine and because of that this will be my last. Now if something were to come up and we could adopt some more I would be all for it.
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08-06-2007, 03:08 PM
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GET IT RIGHT!
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I haven't read all the posts but I've read enough to wonder...
For those that are against people having more children than they may be able to afford and therefore need government help...
Do you drive a car? Do you ride in a car? If you were involved in an accident and were disabled, would you accept government help? If so, how dare you! You don't have to drive or ride in a car. Take the bus! Ride a bike! Walk! Don't go! Be a hermit and stay home. Have groceries delivered. Thats the surest safest route. I mean really. You can't be doing stuff that might cause you to have to accept government aid! Thats not fair to us taxpayers! We don't want to pay for your desire for a car!
Whats that? You have a boat, a motorcycle and a 4 wheeler too? How dare you take such risks!
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08-06-2007, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
Here in Wisconsin and in most states we ARE paying for everyone else's kids. If your claiming each kid as a deduction on your taxes, then "we're" paying for it -IF you claim any. The majority of our 2000 property tax bill is also going to pay for the "other" kids education.
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Point taken. In my case we homeschool our children and I still paid over $10,000.00 to the public education system through taxes last year.
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08-06-2007, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
God created the physical rules which brings a baby into this world when He created people. When you do a certain act, a baby is the result -right away for some, eventually for others, and never for a lucky few.  |
As a woman who has dealt with the pain of infertility, I want you to know that I am HIGHLY offended by that last remark! How dare you assume that just because someone doesn't have birth children, that it is that way by choice and that they are happy about it?!!!
I do believe that there are people who, for whatever reason, choose not to be parents. And that is perfectly FINE. But I do not believe that those people should condemn those who do choose to have children - no matter how many.
I also know that there are people who choose to have as many children as God will allow them. They are financially able to provide for them. They have the stamina it takes to do it. And they have enough love, time and patience to do a great job. But I also do not believe those people should condemn those who, for whatever reason, choose not to have children.
These are very personal choices to make in life. They should stay PERSONAL.
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08-06-2007, 03:59 PM
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I have no issues with it if they can afford it and not rely on the Welfare System to support them and the children are not being emotionally neglected.
IMOP I think the wife is lacking something within and having baby after baby is filling the need, at this point when is enough , enough? Sooner or later her clock will ticker out or they'll run out J's....  ~
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08-06-2007, 04:01 PM
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arbitrary subjective label
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Join Date: May 2007
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Point taken. In my case we homeschool our children and I still paid over $10,000.00 to the public education system through taxes last year.
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You and me both, bubba! 
And I never even got a thank you note!
My natural brother is in the teacher's union. It makes for . . . interesting . . . conversation at family get-togethers when the topic of education comes up.
"Ladies aaaaaand Gentlemen, in the left corner, we have a champion of socialistic status quo and the diminishment of critical thought. In the right corner, we have antisocial weirdo cultic homeschooling fundareallymeanitmental Christians who SPANK THEIR KIDS ! ! ! 
RandyWayne (that other guy) is correct about the federal taxes, though. They are way down. The powers that be have done the math and figured out that my kids will be waaaaaay better taxpayers than the kids of the illegal immigrants, so they are attempting to mold social behavior with the tax code. Not that they've ever tried that trick before . . .
For the record, governments in general have a lousy track record at creating effective incentive for procreation among the population. They have only succeeded at population control, thus far. 
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