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Old 08-27-2007, 04:08 PM
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GOOD NEWS RON PAUL FANS!!!!

Over the last few months and most likely due to the exposure from the debates Presidential Canidate Ron Paul has seen a giant leap in support according to most scientific opinon polls.

I am pasting the results below. RP has doubled and some case tripled his support!

(the bad news is that means he has gone from 1% to 2% and 3% in some polls - LOL!!!!)

Last Updated: 8/24/07

National Averages by Month
Pollster Jan Feb Mar Apr May June July Aug
ABC News 1.0 1.0 - 1.0 - 1.7 - -
American Research Group - - 1.0 - 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
CBS News - - - - - - - -
CNN 1.0 - 2.0 1.0 1.0 2.0 - 1.0
Cook Political Report - - - 1.0 1.0 2.0 - -
Democracy Corps - - 1.0 - - - - -
Diageo - - - - 1.0 - - -
Fox News - - - - 1.0 2.0 2.0 3.0
Gallup - - 1.0 2.0 - 2.0 3.0 3.0
Ipsos - - - - - - - -
Los Angeles Times - - - - - - - -
Marist - 1.0 - - - - - -
McLaughlin - - - - - - - -
NBC - - - - - 2.0 2.0 -
Newsweek - - - - - - - 2.0
Pew Research - - - - - - - -
Quinnipiac - 1.0 - - - 1.0 - 2.0
Time Magazine - - - - - - - -
USA Today - - - - - 1.5 3.0 2.0
Zogby - - 3.0 - - - 1.0 -
Misc Pollsters - - - - - - - -
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:08 PM
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Oh please tell me you are not going to invoke conspiracy theory stupidity here.

It amazes me how many people resort to the black helicopter stuff to justify their positions or to explain things that didn't go the way they thought they should.

Ron Paul doesn't show up as squat diddily in any scientific national polls. Only on the voluntary intenet ones where his little minions can vote a few hundred times each.
No sir I'm not... but it certainly gave you an opportunity to break out the good ole trust black helicopter reference.

Below are the "squat diddly" results of Ron Pauls Straw Polls so far. These are NOT internet polls. These are actual physical straw polls where one registered voter is allowed one vote and placed that vote physically in an actual physical location.

Ron Paul's Straw Poll Results
Updated on August 25, 2007

Straw Poll Date Place Percent
Allegheny County, Pennsylvania 8/26/2007 1 45.2 %
DeKalb County, Georgia Straw Poll 8/25/2007 1 24 %
HRCC (Minnesota) 8/22/2007 3 16.0%
Ronald Reagan Club (Washington) 8/21/2007 1 28.0%
West Alabama 8/18/2007 1 81.2%
Strafford County, NH 8/18/2007 1 72.2%
West Lafayette, Indiana 8/18/2007 4 11.7%
Illinois State Fair 8/17/2007 3 18.9%
Students for Life of America 8/16/2007 4 9.0%
Western Montana Fair 8/15/2007 6 4.0%
Gaston County, NC 8/14/2007 1 36.6%
Ames, Iowa 8/11/2007 5 9.1%
(NFRA), St. Louis, MO 8/6/2007 3 14.0%
FreedomWorks Straw Poll 8/3/2007 1 56 %
Georgetown County, SC 7/28/2007 2 17.9%
New Hampshire Taxpayers 7/7/2007 1 65.3%
Cobb County, GA 7/4/2007 2 17.0%
California Republican Assembly 7/1/2007 4 12.0%
National Taxpayers Union 6/16/2007 2 16.7%
Utah GOP convention 6/8/2007 2 5.4%
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:10 PM
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GOOD NEWS RON PAUL FANS!!!!

Over the last few months and most likely due to the exposure from the debates Presidential Canidate Ron Paul has seen a giant leap in support according to most scientific opinon polls.

I am pasting the results below. RP has doubled and some case tripled his support!

(the bad news is that means he has gone from 1% to 2% and 3% in some polls - LOL!!!!)

Last Updated: 8/24/07

National Averages by Month
Pollster Jan Feb Mar Apr May June July Aug
ABC News 1.0 1.0 - 1.0 - 1.7 - -
American Research Group - - 1.0 - 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
CBS News - - - - - - - -
CNN 1.0 - 2.0 1.0 1.0 2.0 - 1.0
Cook Political Report - - - 1.0 1.0 2.0 - -
Democracy Corps - - 1.0 - - - - -
Diageo - - - - 1.0 - - -
Fox News - - - - 1.0 2.0 2.0 3.0
Gallup - - 1.0 2.0 - 2.0 3.0 3.0
Ipsos - - - - - - - -
Los Angeles Times - - - - - - - -
Marist - 1.0 - - - - - -
McLaughlin - - - - - - - -
NBC - - - - - 2.0 2.0 -
Newsweek - - - - - - - 2.0
Pew Research - - - - - - - -
Quinnipiac - 1.0 - - - 1.0 - 2.0
Time Magazine - - - - - - - -
USA Today - - - - - 1.5 3.0 2.0
Zogby - - 3.0 - - - 1.0 -
Misc Pollsters - - - - - - - -
Arent these those pesky internet polls where each candidates little minions can vote a few hundred times each?

Why don't we look at the straw polls that consist of one vote per real live flesh & blood voters. The straw poll results I mention are in the post just before this one.
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Old 08-27-2007, 09:28 PM
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Arent these those pesky internet polls where each candidates little minions can vote a few hundred times each?

Why don't we look at the straw polls that consist of one vote per real live flesh & blood voters. The straw poll results I mention are in the post just before this one.
DT,

I am 100% convinced that he is the best candidate. If anyone would actually stop long enough to listen to this man they would be convinced too.

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Old 08-27-2007, 09:34 PM
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What was funny was that a couple of days before that straw poll the Paul folks were saying he might win it. That they thought a lot of people were going to accept invitations to vote from other candidates organizations but then surprise them all and vote for Ron Paul once they got there. Guess that didn't happen!!
The straw poll is a joke. Its a fund raiser. All it shows is that a person has the ability to organize and get people to vote. Every vote is bought and paid for. Ultimately, if a guy can't get people to vote for him even when hes PAYING them, the handwriting on the wall should be obvious.

9% in the straw poll with Guiliani, McCain and Thompson sitting out is more like less than 1%.
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Old 08-27-2007, 09:37 PM
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The exit polls showed him winning it with 37%.

The diebold electronic voting machines were used.

So... who knows.

But... those who view him negatively will always react negatively. Those who do not will not.

Our view shapes our reactions.
Somebody cheated?!?!?!?!? Come on D4T! That's the oldest loser's excuse in the book!
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Arent these those pesky internet polls where each candidates little minions can vote a few hundred times each?

Why don't we look at the straw polls that consist of one vote per real live flesh & blood voters. The straw poll results I mention are in the post just before this one.
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Old 08-27-2007, 09:58 PM
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Arent these those pesky internet polls where each candidates little minions can vote a few hundred times each?

Why don't we look at the straw polls that consist of one vote per real live flesh & blood voters. The straw poll results I mention are in the post just before this one.
No genius. What I posted are the national scientificly conducted REAL polls by polling companies like Gallup, Zogby, Pew Research ,etc.

Where you see a news site or source named it is not unscientific online polls cited but just means it is a poll that they commissioned from some polling company.

I have a hard time understanding why so many people are having a hard time understanding the difference between an online voluntary poll where campaigns can be organized to flood the poll vs. scientific polls where a representative sample of the general population or likely voters are polled.
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Old 08-31-2007, 01:12 AM
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DT,

I am 100% convinced that he is the best candidate. If anyone would actually stop long enough to listen to this man they would be convinced too.

chosen
The reason why Ron Paul is not the best candidate, while he is right on a good number of things, is that he is unelectable.

1) He is not a good speaker.

2) He is not a good debater.

3) He does not have presidential presence or "aura."

4) He appears old in every way.

5) His voice is somewhat whiny.

6) He sounds like a complainer.

The truth is, I agree with him on MANY, MANY things. But, he would be a waste of my time and effort due to the fact that I know he can't get the nomination, let alone beat Hillary or Osama, or George the monkey, for that matter.

He has no stage presence, he is not well-accepted among the mainstream conservatives or moderates of his own party, and he can't raise the funds necessary to win.

Too bad. What would be nice is if somebody would realize he is right and make him a key adviser to their platform AFTER they got elected.
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Somebody cheated?!?!?!?!? Come on D4T! That's the oldest loser's excuse in the book!
I said... So... who knows... come off it folks.

I didn't say anybody cheated.

Do none of you know the weaknesses of the diebold voting machines?
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