One In The Greek

[Michael The Disciple]

if he isn't the father then he isn't god. But the disciples confessed him to be god. Therefore he must be the father.

Home run!

[Costeon]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

The Logos which was God became human. The Logos was the FORM OF GOD, not the entirety of God.

John 1:14

14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Now there was still one God and now one man amen? That which was man saw himself as subject to that which was still God.

When the Logos was made human, is he still God or just human? It sounds like you have an omnipresent God mode and a limited human mode.

[Scott Pitta]

The Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.

Easy stuff.

[Costeon]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

The Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.

Easy stuff.

That is easy.

Till you start thinking about it. :-)

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Costeon

When the Logos was made human, is he still God or just human? It sounds like you have an omnipresent God mode and a limited human mode.

Sure.

For there is one God and one mediator between God and me, the man Christ Jesus.

Another way of seeing it.

1 Tim. 6:14-16

14That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: 15Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

[Costeon]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Sure.

For there is one God and one mediator between God and me, the man Christ Jesus.

Another way of seeing it.

1 Tim. 6:14-16

14That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: 15Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

I'm not sure how to understand "sure." Do you believe that before the Word became human, the Word was the visible form of God, and so was God himself, but after becoming man, he is now just human?

[Michael The Disciple]

Do you believe that before the Word became human, the Word was the visible form of God, and so was God himself,

Yes

but after becoming man, he is now just human?

The logos part of God became human and still is. The omnipresence has always been the nature of God.

Jesus the man is the visible form of God now.

Read 1 Tim. 6:14-16 slowly.

14That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: 15Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Who only has immortality speaks of his humanity. It stands distinct from his essential nature which no man HAS SEEN.....OR CAN SEE.

This is not 2 God persons.

It is one God and one man.

Jesus is both. Or another way of putting the same thing would be YAH is both.

[Scott Pitta]

He was with God in the beginning.

[Costeon]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

He was with God in the beginning.

If we take Jesus's words at face value in the Gospel of John, it does seem that before his earthly ministry he already had existed in relationship with the Father in heaven--not "as God" but as the Word/Son.

[Costeon]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Yes

The logos part of God became human and still is. The omnipresence has always been the nature of God.

This is not 2 God persons.

It is one God and one man.

Jesus is both. Or another way of putting the same thing would be YAH is both.

You basically have a form of binitarianism.

"Yah" is one being existing in two modes, Father and Son, one divine, one human.

The Father and Son are distinguished and interact as persons, yet both are Yah.

"Yah" is the more general or comprehensive name. So, in effect, the name "Yah" (or "Jesus" for those who call "him" that) is your equivalent of how Trinitarians use the name "God," which refers to all three divine persons united in one being or which can refer individually to each person. But instead of 3 divine persons united together in one being, "God," you have two, one divine one human, united as one being, "Yah."

Who has taught your form of modalism before? I had asked for book recommendations in an earlier post. I may have overlooked your response, but I'm very interested in the various ways Oneness believers have explained the Oneness of God.