Why Does Our Contry Want War With Russia?

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I cant believe whats happening. Our Government keeps pushing war with Russia. Anytime something happens somewhere in the world our leaders blame Russia. Nerve attack on a British/Russian spy. Russia did it and Putin personally ordered it!

Nerve gas attack in Syria, the Russians did it. It is so obvious these are false flags designed to take us into war.

What is the chances IN YOUR OPINION we will go to war with Russia? I am concerned about it. Americans have a way of going ho hum over events that can be devastating to their lives.

I think you are pretty naive to think Russia has not done those things. The nerve agent attack in London was with a very specific nerve agent that only the Russian government has and the target was a traitor / defector. Putin is former KGB so don't think he is not one cold........you know what.

In Syria it really doesn't matter if Russia or Syria did it. Russia is the state sponsoring Syria so if Syria did it they did not do it without the permission of Russia. I am quite sure our military response will be targeted at Syrian targets not Russian troops. As far as that goes there are very few actual Russian troops in Syria as they are using mercenaries. A few weeks ago they sent hundreds to attack our allies in Russia and the American trainers with them but got their butts kicked by American air and ground power. Google it if you have not read about it. Pretty interesting.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo

You're speaking in grandiosity so that you can deny the brutality that has happened and continues to happen. You would rather turn a blind eye to the murder of innocent women and children and ignore Russia's challenge to our world influence for what's right. Thank God America's foreign policy has never been anchored by grandiosity and fear.




We're not talking about saving ISIS terrorists. We're talking about backing up our President who has made statements that reflect our values for justice and peace.

You aren't qualified to demand my kids die for your stupid pet social justice cause.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo

I can't believe what I am reading from you guys. This is sad.

There is not one nation in western Europe worth saving.
They will either be dominated by Islam or Russia, take your pick. The EU is the most anti-Christian, pro-Muslim entity on the planet. They are our enemy.

Eastern European nations, for the most part, have realized letting liberal democracy go too far is dangerous. They are happy with nationalism and a touch of authoritarianism. To them, liberal democracy is dangerous when people use it to vote in their own destruction. The only people that could handle liberal democracy were pre-1860's Americans.

I hate the thought of eastern European nations being under the thumb of Russia, but western Europe has judged itself unworthy of freedom. Putin just might be their savior.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Originally Posted by Esaias

You aren't qualified to demand my kids die for your stupid pet social justice cause.

No one is. That is why we have a volunteer military fighting force. They SERVE our country-- by the Grace of God, through the order of our President and by act of Congress. You are demonstrating a faulty discussion tactic. By making such an emotionally charged statement, you think that stops the discussion. Meanwhile, we should both be grateful for the Grace of god and the level-headed men and women in positions of power who do have the power to demand our fighting forces to defend justice, peace, and our interests. It is in our best interest and in the best interest of the world, in a strictly natural sense, to have a strong government with a strong fighting force who willing to stand up to despots.

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In 2006 I was on a transatlantic cruise from New York to London while my son was serving in either Fallujah or Ramadi as a United States Marine when it was the worst there. Standing in line waiting for the dining room doors to open this older man was railing against President Bush and American interventionism.

I spoke up and said that I supported the President and the mission in Iraq. He lashed out at me verbally saying somethign like "You wouldn't if it was your kids fighting over there!" To which I replied, of course, that my was indeed a United States Marine in Iraq as we spoke and the reason for most of my gray hair.

I have never seen a man shut up so fast in his life. He swallowed hard and said " well, then you have a right to say what you said". Just one more reminder why politics and religion are not good topics at family gatherings or vacations!

I have not read many of the posts on this thread and probably won't read any more because it is disappointing to see how wimpy some of you are in standing up to injustice.

No country is perfect and if that is your criteria for doing whats right you will never do what is right in wielding power justly.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Originally Posted by Originalist

There is not one nation in western Europe worth saving.
They will either be dominated by Islam or Russia, take your pick. The EU is the most anti-Christian, pro-Muslim entity on the planet. They are our enemy.

Eastern European nations, for the most part, have realized letting liberal democracy go too far is dangerous. They are happy with nationalism and a touch of authoritarianism. To them, liberal democracy is dangerous when people use it to vote in their own destruction. The only people that could handle liberal democracy was pre-1860's Americans.

I hate the thought of eastern European nations being under the thumb of Russia, but western Europe has judged itself unworthy of freedom. Putin just might be their savior.

I certainly hope that is not what would make you happy. Democracy isn't liberal or conservative. The participants in democracy are liberal and conservative.

[Esaias]

Hey, Buckeye. You believe we ought to invade South Africa to save the Boers from government sponsored terrorist attacks? Where they literally boil farmers alive, men women children, rape and murder, torture, dismembering, and all that?

Let me guess, "not our problem", right?

Or how about we invade Chicago to stop the unceasing carnage, terror, rape murder rapine going on due to Democrat incompetence and gangland violence?

No? Doesn't give you the warm fuzzies?

I bet if Texas seceded, and Trump ordered a full invasion, carpetbags and all, you'd wave your little flag and cheer 'em on. "Go Get 'Em, Boys!"

Of course, YOU will be watching the war porn on your TV or smartphone from your nice, comfy couch at home. YOU don't have to get YOUR hands dirty. Nope, let the poor shmucks who always do the dirty work do it, so you can feel better about your self.

Nope, you definitely aren't qualified to demand my kids die for your social justice nonsense.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo

I certainly hope that is not what would make you happy. Democracy isn't liberal or conservative. The participants in democracy are liberal and conservative.

You obviously do not understand the term "liberal democracy".

[Originalist]

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo

No one is. That is why we have a volunteer military fighting force. They SERVE our country-- by the Grace of God, through the order of our President and by act of Congress. You are demonstrating a faulty discussion tactic. By making such an emotionally charged statement, you think that stops the discussion. Meanwhile, we should both be grateful for the Grace of god and the level-headed men and women in positions of power who do have the power to demand our fighting forces to defend justice, peace, and our interests. It is in our best interest and in the best interest of the world, in a strictly natural sense, to have a strong government with a strong fighting force who willing to stand up to despots.

Good grief you must be either under 21, over 65, or a bot.