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09-27-2017, 12:03 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
Colossians 2:9, all the fullness of God did not fit in the body of Jesus prior to his resurrection. Jesus did not become omnipresent until he resurrected.
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09-27-2017, 03:43 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
John 1:1....In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14....And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
The idea that God couldn't "fit inside Jesus" is as silly as the medieval argument on how many angels could dance on the head of a pin.
God is a Spirit. As such, He does not occupy space.
God "filled" the area of the Most Holy Place in the Tabernacle and in the First Temple, so He most certainly could "fit inside Jesus."
Sean, what a ridiculous thing to say.
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09-27-2017, 03:47 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
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09-27-2017, 03:55 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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One thing is not clear to me,...
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I think your math is off by several exponents.
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09-27-2017, 03:57 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
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NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from phaneros
Definition
to make visible, make clear
NASB Translation
appear (1), appeared (6), appears (3), become visible (1), becomes visible (1), disclose (1), disclosed (1), displayed (1), made...evident (2), made known (1), made manifest (2), make...clear (1), manifested (18), manifests (1), revealed (7), show (1), shown (1).
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 5319: φανερόω
φανερόω, φανερῷ; future φανερώσω; 1 aorist ἐφανέρωσά; passive, present φανεροῦμαι; perfect πεφανερωμαι; 1 aorist ἐφανερωθην; 1 future φανερωθήσομαι; (φανερός); to make manifest or visible or known what has been hidden or unknown, to manifest, whether by words, or deeds, or in any other way;
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09-27-2017, 04:26 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
Colossians 1:15-20
15.... Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16....For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17....And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18....And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
19....For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
20....And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
"Image of God" and "through His blood" speaks of Jesus before His resurrection. Notice verse 19 has "all fulness" dwelling in Jesus at that time.
When Paul wrote this epistle, there was no " Colossians 2". Instead, chapter 1 went right into chapter 2. So, the "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily"....( Colossians 2:9) continued what was said about the "all fulness dwell" in Colossians 1:9. Thus, the "fullness" in Christ was before Calvary, not after the resurrection.
Sean, you act as if the "Godhead" is a physical entity. Maybe a gathering of Deities? It is a term that refers to God's nature. Thus, the "fulness of the Godhead" refers to the "fulness of God's nature." We know Jesus manifested that trait before His death, thus He had all that fullness of God's nature before His resurrection.
John 1:15-18
15....John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
16....And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17....For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18....No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Verse 16's "fullness" is the same "fullness" as found in Colossians 1:19 and 2:9.
Pre-crucifixion, Sean, not post-resurrection.
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
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09-27-2017, 04:26 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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I think your math is off by several exponents.
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
www.tkburk.com
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09-27-2017, 04:59 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Colossians 2:9, all the fullness of God did not fit in the body of Jesus prior to his resurrection. Jesus did not become omnipresent until he resurrected.
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Actually, his omnipresence was available to him while on earth, but he laid it aside until his ascension and glorification.
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09-27-2017, 06:15 AM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood too
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Colossians 2:9, all the fullness of God did not fit in the body of Jesus prior to his resurrection. Jesus did not become omnipresent until he resurrected.
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Charlie Chan, you should of stuck with your LOLs in the eschatology section.
Looks like you ODed on the Rasin Bran.
LOL LOL LOL
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09-27-2017, 08:06 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
No comment, but just jokes?
Right, because you have no questions or opinions.
The Godhead subject is a bit too tough for you.
It's okay, do what the Pope tells you, my H/U friend,
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