First Human-Pig Embryo Made - Scary

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

It must be frustrating having to play nice to congregations for offering plates. Good thing there are websites where you can really let your true bottled up self out huh preacher.

Walks in Pajamas, sorry you didn't hit a bullseye with the above.

We don't do plates, we don't ask for anything.

Yet, we are actually in Christianity. Unlike you who masquerades as a Muslim on a Pentecostal forum. You have issues kid.

[Evang.Benincasa]

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Who says I want to believe that? Seems you badly want me to want to.

Hey, your'e the one trying to twist the picture so badly that we should believe the bible LACKS certain elements of marriage instruction that the Koran provides like the need to beat your wife under certain circumstances, when the bible clearly says do not add to it.

But, are you saying you do not WANT to think you should ever beat your wife under any circumstances, but you have to deny your flesh and accept the Koran's teachings as God's word?

You're not into that "christian domestic discipline" thing are you Blume? Trying to recruit? Normal meat and potatoes not doing it for you anymore? LOL

Wow, your imagination can really come up with just about anything to take the attention off the satanic nature of beating wives to such an extent that I claim over and over that beating wives is wicked, and you end up saying I must beat my wife and want you to join me.

At any rate your motive for any point you make is your fundamental search for betterness. In this matter christianity in your mind must be better. So use the bible and contrast the two. Second request.

It has nothing to do with ME being better, but THE TRUTH of the bible being BETTER than the words of the Koran. True doctrine is BETTER than false doctrine. I am no better than you and you are not better than me. We are what we are, if we're anything, by the grace of God. And grace means there's no hope in perdition of thinking we can make ourselves better by who we are. But when I accept the grace of God, GOD makes me His child. And teh cross is all we can glory in, that your doctrine teaches you to deny.

Think of it, the very thing we can glory in, the cross, is taught by the Koran to not have occurred. You're being rob of the only glory you can ever boast of. After all, Koran teaches salvation by works, which is exaltation of yourself. And a man beating his wife really makes him feel dominant.

We all know the christian church's view on sexual abuse, at least the apostolic side. Hide it, confess it, sweep it under the rug and there are current pentecostal church leaders in documented cases who tried to do just that.

As if the bible TEACHES us to commit sexual abuse like the Koran teaches you to beat your wives. The logical fallacy here that you add to the heap already in existence is the idea that the Koran must be right to say you should beat your wife in certain situations because Christians commit sexual abuse and hide it.

And you likely still won't see the fallacy in that logic.

SO: What's the stand on domestic abuse? Because in the 90's the majority of pastors were advising victims in their congregations to submit and suffer and even telling victims that if they divorce for it they will be committing a sin.

The bible teaches no such thing. See, the difference between your position and these examples of abuse are that your Koran TEACHES you to abuse your wife when the bible does not teach anyone to do any of the abuses that occurred in those years. Those folks are as lost as two boys kissing, as much as any muslim who believes the koran's error that the cross never even took place. Although both abuse of people by Christians is as wicked as muslim abuse in beating their wives in certain conditions, the koran teaches you to do so whereas the bible does not teach us to do what these christian abusers did.

Good book about that but you talk and don't read so there's really no point in directing you to it HOWEVER that (quite exhaustive actually) study pretty much summarized 2000 years of grin and bear it church history. Pretty sick.

What is sick is this tendency to throw out logic and make up more fallacies of it than already exists, just for the sake of pride in refusing to admit the Koran is wicked in its admonitions, and saying anything no matter how ridiculous it is just to attempt to make me personally look bad.

The difference between me and you is I don't hate you, I hate the Koran and its wicked teachings that deny the cross and trying to open your eyes to the fruit of your book in the beating of wives in your religion. Wake up..

I was around in the 80's and 90's and I didn't think much of Muslims. Made my trigger finger itch actually. I didn't think much of you people either. So do share. You brought it up, you elaborate on it.

...As if your logic is not filled with fallacy.

WII, wake up! It's not about you and me, like you're trying to make it. It's our souls. It's what we base our faith on. The Koran is from a false prophet. Wake up and smell the coffee. Or do you want to believe it's right in some twisted way in which you think you are denying your flesh that does not want to believe beating wives under certain conditions is needful?

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Hey, your'e the one trying to twist the picture so badly that we should believe the bible LACKS certain elements of marriage instruction that the Koran provides like the need to beat your wife under certain circumstances, when the bible clearly says do not add to it.

But, are you saying you do not WANT to think you should ever beat your wife under any circumstances, but you have to deny your flesh and accept the Koran's teachings as God's word?



Wow, your imagination can really come up with just about anything to take the attention off the satanic nature of beating wives to such an extent that I claim over and over that beating wives is wicked, and you end up saying I must beat my wife and want you to join me.



It has nothing to do with ME being better, but THE TRUTH of the bible being BETTER than the words of the Koran. True doctrine is BETTER than false doctrine. I am no better than you and you are not better than me. We are what we are, if we're anything, by the grace of God. And grace means there's no hope in perdition of thinking we can make ourselves better by who we are. But when I accept the grace of God, GOD makes me His child. And teh cross is all we can glory in, that your doctrine teaches you to deny.

Think of it, the very thing we can glory in, the cross, is taught by the Koran to not have occurred. You're being rob of the only glory you can ever boast of. After all, Koran teaches salvation by works, which is exaltation of yourself. And a man beating his wife really makes him feel dominant.



As if the bible TEACHES us to commit sexual abuse like the Koran teaches you to beat your wives. The logical fallacy here that you add to the heap already in existence is the idea that the Koran must be right to say you should beat your wife in certain situations because Christians commit sexual abuse and hide it.

And you likely still won't see the fallacy in that logic.



The bible teaches no such thing. See, the difference between your position and these examples of abuse are that your Koran TEACHES you to abuse your wife when the bible does not teach anyone to do any of the abuses that occurred in those years. Those folks are as lost as two boys kissing, as much as any muslim who believes the koran's error that the cross never even took place. Although both abuse of people by Christians is as wicked as muslim abuse in beating their wives in certain conditions, the koran teaches you to do so whereas the bible does not teach us to do what these christian abusers did.



What is sick is this tendency to throw out logic and make up more fallacies of it than already exists, just for the sake of pride in refusing to admit the Koran is wicked in its admonitions, and saying anything no matter how ridiculous it is just to attempt to make me personally look bad.

The difference between me and you is I don't hate you, I hate the Koran and its wicked teachings that deny the cross and trying to open your eyes to the fruit of your book in the beating of wives in your religion. Wake up..



...As if your logic is not filled with fallacy.

WII, wake up! It's not about you and me, like you're trying to make it. It's our souls. It's what we base our faith on. The Koran is from a false prophet. Wake up and smell the coffee. Or do you want to believe it's right in some twisted way in which you think you are denying your flesh that does not want to believe beating wives under certain conditions is needful?

Hitting my wife never crossed my mind. This fascination is all yours. I did ask what the bible / church teaches are rights / responsibilities of husbands and wives. All I know is that wives are instructed to submit to their husbands? Not to speak in church? Women in the old testament were little more than the property of their husbands and fathers. Did the new testament change that?
Where?
I never offered logic on this to begin with. Only you can imagine a fallacy when only questions were offered. Well....hmmmmm......unless you're uncomfortable with the question. Tell us blume - are you a spanker? You sure like logging on to these boards and getting spanked hahahahahaha...

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Hitting my wife never crossed my mind. This fascination is all yours. I did ask what the bible / church teaches are rights / responsibilities of husbands and wives. All I know is that wives are instructed to submit to their husbands? Not to speak in church? Women in the old testament were little more than the property of their husbands and fathers. Did the new testament change that?
Where?
I never offered logic on this to begin with. Only you can imagine a fallacy when only questions were offered. Well....hmmmmm......unless you're uncomfortable with the question. Tell us blume - are you a spanker? You sure like logging on to these boards and getting spanked hahahahahaha...

Vivid imagination again.

The bottom line is the Koran teaches you to strike your wife under certain conditions. Agreed?

Everyone can see you're scrambling in desperation here and royally blowing it.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Vivid imagination again.

The bottom line is the Koran teaches you to strike your wife under certain conditions. Agreed?

Everyone can see you're scrambling in desperation here and royally blowing it.

This is because WII isn't a bonafide devotee of Islam, if he was he would of agreed with what you offered. He would of built his case within the paradigm of his religion to show how it was correct to discipline a wife as Islam teaches. He doesn't do that, he just brings up the Old Testament to show similarities. Yet, when a Muslim does that he doesn't point to the OT as their opponent's OT. A Muslim looks at all the books of the Bible as his. It may have to be reinterpreted through the lens of Islam, but the books are still his. This is what WII doesn't do, which makes people second guess his claim of being a Muslim. He also forgets the peanut butter a jelly signature "PBUH" after he mentions the so-called prophet of Islam, and Jesus.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Vivid imagination again.

The bottom line is the Koran teaches you to strike your wife under certain conditions. Agreed?

Everyone can see you're scrambling in desperation here and royally blowing it.

Desparation? The Quran is consistent with God's Law since it was first penned down.

I'm still interested in what the bible teaches though spanky. Give us all some teaching. Cliff note, not headache.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Desparation? The Quran is consistent with God's Law since it was first penned down.

I'm still interested in what the bible teaches though spanky. Give us all some teaching. Cliff note, not headache.

Koran teaches wife beating. nuff said. you're not responding to my notes I raise as usual. why should I respond to yours?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Koran teaches wife beating. nuff said. you're not responding to my notes I raise as usual. why should I respond to yours?

He is caught in the crack.

This turkey isn't a Muslim.

At least he can eat bacon in peace!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

He is caught in the crack.

This turkey isn't a Muslim.

At least he can eat bacon in peace!

interesting, in light of the thread's title.