Jan Crouch Stroke

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Will you please elaborate?

The Apostles Peter and Paul preached the same gospel as the
Lord, found in Mk. 16:16: "He that believes AND is baptized
SHALL BE saved." That is the very essence of the gospel: we
could say that that is the "bulls eye" of the gospel. If the premise
is wrong, one will never hit the bulls eye. Most believers have
been led to DENY at least one of three elements of the gospel
that saves: they are the NAME, water baptism, and/or receiving
the Holy Spirit. We must be clear in this matter: it is the Father
that draws us to Jesus, and whosoever HEARS and OBEYS the
calling WILL BE saved! Or have we forgotten: "Then they that
gladly received his word were baptized..."

We are not forgetting the call to believe: for that comes BEFORE
obedience and AFTER the calling. The Apostle Paul declared that
it is the gospel that saves: but it was the Lord Jesus that made
our salvation possible!

Believe and obey the gospel.

[houston]

That is not the gospel. The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 15:1–4

[Fionn mac Cumh]

I know its easy to bag on the prosperity gospel but, show me a church, UPC included, that doesnt preach some form of give and it shall be given to you?

[Fionn mac Cumh]

To many keyboard warriors in here. What have people in this thread done to further the kingdom?

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Regarding the homosexual affairs accusations, please correct me if I am wrong, didnt he pay an accuser off? Thats not an admission of guilt. Most of the time people do that to hush someone up. Not because they are guilty, but because they dont want to continue to get their name dragged through the mud.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

What have people in this thread done to further the kingdom?

Hey, watch it! Those are my toes you're stomping on!

[seguidordejesus]

Originally Posted by houston

There is that. I viewed regularly my first 9 months after conversion.

We see how that worked out!

[seguidordejesus]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

I know its easy to bag on the prosperity gospel but, show me a church, UPC included, that doesnt preach some form of give and it shall be given to you?

Nah, it's usually give, and if you don't, you're in rebellion, and rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and witches will fry, that's why broomsticks are such good kindling.

So pull out that wallet, buddy, I need a new Cadillac.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

I know its easy to bag on the prosperity gospel but, show me a church, UPC included, that doesnt preach some form of give and it shall be given to you?

I honestly don't feel comfortable talking about something like this in a thread about a person who has passed.

No matter my personal feelings about the person in life, once that life is over... and they are in eternity, it just does not sit well to rehash past grievance.


on the question you asked, there is a vast difference between being biblical and preaching scripture and going off the track and running off into a ditch.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I honestly don't feel comfortable talking about something like this in a thread about a person who has passed.

No matter my personal feelings about the person in life, once that life is over... and they are in eternity, it just does not sit well to rehash past grievance.


on the question you asked, there is a vast difference between being biblical and preaching scripture and going off the track and running off into a ditch.

Well said bro.

I believe the prosperity gospel in all its forms is not biblical.