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Old 03-17-2016, 03:17 PM
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nd - wasn't trying to quote you, didn't even look at your previous posts!
Just found it ironic that you seem to indicate by your posts that they are all Trumpbots, but you don't think they have enough conviction to spend money on a ticket for protesting.
If you feel that I "misquoted" you, then accept my apologies.
Still sounds sort of contradictory to me.
I don't believe it's contradictory at all. Trump supporters are angry and unable to reason, but I don't believe they are as devoted to Trump as Bernie supporters are devoted to Bernie.

Bernie supporters are very angry at Trump. Trump's rhetoric makes them angry. They will spend money and wait hours to protest against Trump.

Meanwhile, Trump supporters don't care what Bernie says. They're not going to pay or spend time to go to a Bernie event.
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Did Trump turn water into wine, walk on water, and raise the dead?
would you be happy if he uses the Bible as toilet paper?
You actually get into a pulpit to "minister?" Does the sign over the front door of the church say, Church of the High Exalted White People?
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Old 03-17-2016, 04:43 PM
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What makes you think he will do those things? The man's as dishonest as every other politician. Hilarious.

There's already one thing he absolutely will not be able to do: close the border his first day in office. Totally impossible. And the people who believe that are plain stupid. Sorry, but they are.


Nah, I don't believe he's working for the Clintons.

He is no more dishonest than any other candidate in the last 100 years and certainly more honest than some. There is absolutely no logical argument you can bring to demonstrate he won't at least vigorously try to fulfill his promises. His ego won't let him do anything else.
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Old 03-17-2016, 06:19 PM
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He is no more dishonest than any other candidate in the last 100 years and certainly more honest than some. There is absolutely no logical argument you can bring to demonstrate he won't at least vigorously try to fulfill his promises. His ego won't let him do anything else.
NY Times claims he already was open to compromise on his immigration stance. The same on which his whole candidacy is based. If he's already softening his stance on his signature campaign policy, he won't follow through on the rest, either.
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Old 03-17-2016, 06:39 PM
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NY Times claims he already was open to compromise on his immigration stance. The same on which his whole candidacy is based. If he's already softening his stance on his signature campaign policy, he won't follow through on the rest, either.
Where were you when this so-called "compromise" was explained time and again? And since when do you put such confidence in the liberal media to accurately portray a GOP candidate's comments? This is how you discredit yourself over and over.
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Old 03-17-2016, 06:59 PM
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Where were you when this so-called "compromise" was explained time and again? And since when do you put such confidence in the liberal media to accurately portray a GOP candidate's comments? This is how you discredit yourself over and over.
Trump himself admitted he spoke off the record to the times about immigration.

All Trump said was he refused to allow the tapes to be released and he was indeed relaxing his position on visas for skilled workers.

You remind me of JD. Nothing dems or obama does can be wrong in JD's eyes. Same with you, only it's Trump can do or say no wrong. Trump must have thought of you when he claimed he could "stand in the middle of 5th Ave, shoot somebody and not lose any voters."
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Trump himself admitted he spoke off the record to the times about immigration.

All Trump said was he refused to allow the tapes to be released and he was indeed relaxing his position on visas for skilled workers.

You remind me of JD. Nothing dems or obama does can be wrong in JD's eyes. Same with you, only it's Trump can do or say no wrong. Trump must have thought of you when he claimed he could "stand in the middle of 5th Ave, shoot somebody and not lose any voters."
You are very uninformed. Trump spoke candidly about the NY Times interview at one of the last debates. He made it clear that revealing the transcript of the interview would tip his hand and put him at a disadvantage later. But he went on to say that any talk of "compromise" would have been "the wall would only be 40 feet instead of 50". The NY Times knows this of course, but they have such fun baiting gullible people like present company.

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Old 03-17-2016, 08:54 PM
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would you be happy if he uses the Bible as toilet paper?
You actually get into a pulpit to "minister?" Does the sign over the front door of the church say, Church of the High Exalted White People?
That was a bit cold and uncalled for. Just because Deacon mocked the hysteria over Trump?
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Old 03-17-2016, 09:41 PM
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You are very uninformed.
No, you're the one who is uninformed. Or perhaps you know but are spinning what was actually stated.


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Trump spoke candidly about the NY Times interview at one of the last debates. He made it clear that revealing the transcript of the interview would tip his hand and put him at a disadvantage later. But he went on to say that any talk of "compromise" would have been "the wall would only be 40 feet instead of 50". The NY Times knows this of course, but they have such fun baiting gullible people like present company.
While I didn't watch the debate, I did read the transcript. Transcripts are great. They quote what was said, word for word.

Let's review what the transcript has from the debate in Miami, March 3. There's a question from Megan Kelly to the Donald...

We'll see who the uninformed, gullible person is.

"""KELLY: Back in January, you gave an off-the-record interview to the New York Times. It was apparently audiotaped. Now, a recent report in Buzzfeed citing sources at the Times reports that in that interview you expressed flexibility when it comes to your immigration policy, specifically with respect to your promise to deport the 11 million people who are now living here illegally. You have suggested that you may have expressed some flexibility when it comes to the size of the wall that you want to..build. But did you tell them, specifically, that you are flexible when it comes to your deportation plan?

TRUMP: I don't know exactly what -- when you talk about off the record. First of all, Buzzfeed? They were the ones that said under no circumstances will I run for president. And were they wrong. But a lot of people said that.

Then, ..I did have a meeting with the editorial board of the New York Times, a very nice meeting. Many of those things were off the record, I think at their suggestion and my suggestion. And I think being off the record is a very important thing. I think it's a very, very powerful thing.

And I will say this. These three gentlemen have gone off the record many times with reporters. And I think they want to honor it, and I would always honor that.

I will say, though, in terms of immigration -- and almost anything else -- there always has to be some, you know, tug and pull and deal. And, you know, when I watch Ted stand on the Senate floor, I had great respect for what he did. He stood there for a day-and-a- half or something. In the meantime, what came of it? Nothing. You have to be able to have some flexibility, some negotiation.

Now, sometimes you ask for more than you want and you negotiate down to the point. I may have discussed something like that with the New York Times, but I would never release off-the-record conversations...

I don't think it's fair, frankly, to do that to anybody.

KELLY: How flexible are you on this issue?

(AUDIENCE BOOS)

TRUMP: Not very flexible. No, not very flexible. I give the example -- I'm going to build a wall. I'm the one that wants the wall. I'm the one that can build the wall.

But -- and I used an example. And this isn't necessarily what was said, but whatever was said, the wall's 50 feet high. Is it going to be 45 feet or 40 feet? That could very well be. That could very well -- he wants it to be higher.

(LAUGHTER)

That could very well be. But there's always give and take. There's always negotiation. And the best negotiator that knows what he's doing will make a great deal. But we need give and take in government. If you don't have give and take, you're never going to agree on anything."""

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ipt-annotated/

Did you catch that? Trump said "this WASN'T what was actually said" on that tape.

Now next time before you go off calling me uniformed and gullible...you may want to make sure you have your facts straight!

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Old 03-17-2016, 09:43 PM
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From CBS reporting the Detroit debate:

"""On the Republican debate stage Thursday night, Republican front-runner Donald Trump declared he was "changing" his stance on immigration, and on a separate question, he admitted he talked about immigration during an off-the-record portion of an editorial board discussion with the New York Times in January.

"I am changing it and softening the position" on visas for skilled immigrant workers, Trump said in Detroit. He added that it was because "we need talented people in this country."

Previously, as Fox News host Megyn Kelly pointed out, Trump did not support increasing skilled worker visas, saying they "decimate American workers."

But on Thursday, Trump said "one of the biggest problems we have is people go to the best colleges they go to Harvard, they go to Stanford, they go to Wharton. As soon as they're finished they get shoved out. They want to stay in this country. They want to stay here desperately. They're not able to stay here. For that purposes we absolutely have to be able to keep the brain power here in this country."""

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/republic...t-transcripts/
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