The Falacy of "Holy Spirit Prompting."

[Evang.Benincasa]

Here is a picture of JoeReba right before he signs on here to post.

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Originally Posted by shazeep

ya, i guess it depends upon one's definition of "apostle" then--is an apostle a familiar acolyte, or a church seeder? I dislike the use of the term for the latter, as now one must come up with a new term for the former, is prolly my biggest objection.

When I think of the original apostles, I think of those whom Jesus personally sent. He called the 12, Judas fell, they voted in Matthias. But while Matthias was voted in, Jesus personally called Paul and sent him. Something to think about.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by JoReba

Peter never called Saul's writings The Inspired Word of God. He only called them "wise" and "difficult to understand," proving the lack of unity and Apostleship in Saul.

Read with accurate comprehension, rather than with your imagination and so called "Free-Dumb inna thu SPEEE-Ritt!" Lol.

JoReba I know I'm casting pearl here, but as simply as I can say this Peter compares Paul's writings with the scripture. Peter also says that those who twist the words of Paul's writings will be destroyed.

I'm simply, simply, sad for me, that I had the chance to see that there are more people in the world who are absolutely religiously insane.

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

JoReba I know I'm casting pearl here, but as simply as I can say this Peter compares Paul's writings with the scripture. Peter also says that those who twist the words of Paul's writings will be destroyed.

I'm simply, simply, sad for me, that I had the chance to see that there are more people in the world who are absolutely religiously insane.

Hear Hear !!!

Peter called Paul's writings "Scripture". The unstable, he said, twist and wrest them.

[Monterrey]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Here is a picture of JoeReba right before he signs on here to post.

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[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Hear Hear !!!

Peter called Paul's writings "Scripture". The unstable, he said, twist and wrest them.

I guess JoReba had Sean teach him how to read.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Sooo..one of your complaints is, Paul is too humble to be an Apostle?

BTW He was called to be an Apostle in Acts 9...if you understood what the word meant, you'd see that.

1) Paul's conversion. He met Jesus
Acts 9:3-6 Now as he went on his way, he approached Damascus, and suddenly a light from heaven shone around him. And falling to the ground he heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?” And he said, “Who are you, Lord?” And he said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. But rise and enter the city, and you will be told what you are to do.”

2) Jesus sends a disciple to pray for Paul and tells him Paul is a chosen instrument of the Gentiles
Acts 9: 10-17 Now there was a disciple at Damascus named Ananias. The Lord said to him in a vision, “Ananias.” And he said, “Here I am, Lord.” And the Lord said to him, “Rise and go to the street called Straight, and at the house of Judas look for a man of Tarsus named Saul, for behold, he is praying, and he has seen in a vision a man named Ananias come in and lay his hands on him so that he might regain his sight.” But Ananias answered, “Lord, I have heard from many about this man, how much evil he has done to your saints at Jerusalem. And here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call on your name.” But the Lord said to him, “Go, for he is a chosen instrument of mine to carry my name before the Gentiles and kings and the children of Israel. For I will show him how much he must suffer for the sake of my name.”

3) Paul received by the other Apostles
Acts 15:2 And after Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and debate with them, Paul and Barnabas and some of the others were appointed to go up to Jerusalem to the apostles and the elders about this question.

Acts 15:4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and the elders, and they declared all that God had done with them.

4) Peter and the other Apostles sent Paul back to the Gentile with some brothers
Acts 15:22 Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers,

5) The Apostles call Paul beloved and someone who risked his life for the Jesus Christ
Acts 15:25-26 it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

6) Apostle Peter calls Paul brother and recognizes his letters as wisdom given to him and as scripture
2 Peter 3:16-17 And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures

Please pay attention. If Paul was wrong, this would be a great time for the Apostle Peter to rebuke Paul's doctrine and claims to Apostleship.

But INSTEAD Peter implies the wisdom GIVEN to Paul comes from God and is SCRIPTURE.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by JoReba

As a "Pentecostal," you typically base your faith on what you have revealed about yourself:

1.) "My Thoughts"

2.) "I wonder."

3.) "At any rate."

4.) "I trust the canon."

5.) "I feel."

All of these statements by yourself demonstrate empty thoughts. There is still time for you to bring your mind and life into compliance with God's Word, rather than remaining filled with useless church aphorisms. Peter never called Saul's writings The Inspired Word of God. He only called them "wise" and "difficult to understand," proving the lack of unity and Apostleship in Saul.

Read with accurate comprehension, rather than with your imagination and so called "Free-Dumb inna thu SPEEE-Ritt!" Lol.

Don't you see how contradictory it is for an Apostle to call Paul's words WISE when YOU said he was WRONG about Grace?

How can words being WISE prove a lack of unity and apostleship? If he had said Paul was an idiot, would you assume that was proof of Unity and Apostleship?

[shazeep]

nice!

Originally Posted by mfblume

When I think of the original apostles, I think of those whom Jesus personally sent. He called the 12, Judas fell, they voted in Matthias. But while Matthias was voted in, Jesus personally called Paul and sent him. Something to think about.

yes, quite possible.

[shazeep]

2Cor12

12I persevered in demonstrating among you the marks of a true apostle, including signs, wonders and miracles.

well there it is!