Guillatines to be used for future executions

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Oh you thought that was a sin? Yes to me IHOP is far ahead of most "Apostolic" groups concerning end time truth as well as some other areas. Yes the end time truth is abundant in my heart but ALL the truth is abundant there.

Doom is a message preached by the prophets before you and me. God calls disaster upon sinning nations but first to the sinning Church members.

Sin? Where did that come from? No, it's no sin. It's just betrayal of emphasis.

Emphasis on doom is not the biblical emphasis .

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I hardly ever agree fully with what one teaches in a video. But if there is some powerful truth in it I accept it. My experience is many Youtube teachers have more truths than Church Pastors.

They are all polemic. Anyone can say anything. My question is, aside from the bible, where do we see guillotines being used? Is there an official report or is it just another conspiracy talk going around that people believe for no other reason than they saw it on Facebook or Youtube?

[Truthseeker]

While I believe eschatology is not salvational, it can be a growth issue by erroneous mindsets it creates as we see on this thread.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

While I believe eschatology is not salvational, it can be a growth issue by erroneous mindsets it creates as we see on this thread.

Amen!

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Sin? Where did that come from? No, it's no sin. It's just betrayal of emphasis.

Emphasis on doom is not the biblical emphasis .

Betrayal? No Mike I dont try to hide what I believe. My job is to emphasize what Jesus did. So thats what I try to do.

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

While I believe eschatology is not salvational, it can be a growth issue by erroneous mindsets it creates as we see on this thread.

Amen. It is not a drawing line for fellowship unless people are unreasonably fanatical about their eschatology.

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Betrayal? No Mike I dont try to hide what I believe. My job is to emphasize what Jesus did. So thats what I try to do.

I am not saying you hide anything. I am saying it betrays it to others who may have missed it.

Jesus did not emphasize doom more than anything else like you imply. You SEEM to have have demonstrated that doom is the most important factor by the amount of stress you put on it when describing ministries and assessing doctrines. It always goes back to one thing -- "do they believe we go through tribulation?" If they do, it gets your seal of approval. No matter if IHOP is trinitarian or charismania, if they teach post trib they're better than oneness churches who don't.

Where would you rather go? To trinitarian post trib church or a oneness pretrib church?

I will apologize sincerely if I took you wrong, brother. But please answer that question. It;s more important we are correct about the identity of who God is, than to be correct about the timing of the rapture in relation to tribulation. lol

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I am not saying you hide anything. I am saying it betrays it to others who may have missed it.

Jesus did not emphasize doom more than anything else like you imply. You have demonstrated that doom is the most important factor by the amount of stress you put on it when describing ministries and assessing doctrines. It always goes back to one thing -- "do they believe we go through tribulation?" If they do, it gets your seal of approval. No matter if IHOP is trinitarian or charismania, if they teach post trib they're better than oneness churches who don't.

Where would you rather go? To trinitarian post trib church or a oneness pretrib church?

I will apologize sincerely if I took you wrong, brother. But please answer that question.

Hold that thought Mike. Heading out for work right now but I will address this tomorrow.

[Lafon]

Originally Posted by Disciple4life

I don't care if you claim to be a Christian or not, if you are always talking about the Devil or the Anti-Christ something is majorly wrong.

What so terribly amiss about talking about the things that are to come?

Perhaps if ancient Israel had done a bit more talking about the events of the future, such as the "visit" of their Messiah, more would have been able to recognize and acknowledge Him when He came!

As for me, I believe it to be a good thing to talk about the Anti-Christ and things that are to come. The more one knows what will transpire the better they can be prepared to overcome whatever they will be compelled to confront.

And that is just my 2 pennies worth!

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Amen. It is not a drawing line for fellowship unless people are unreasonably fanatical about their eschatology.

Most futurist do make it such though.