Romance Songs to the Lord

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Sean

I think that some of these songs are created by folks that want to market them for secular use AND religious use. They also can be sung at weddings. There is a bigger market for generic love songs that can imply God or a human lover.

Yeah I doubt it

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Here is the song that really makes me want to puke in my mouth when I hear it... as a romantic song it would be fine... but as a worship song to the Lord, big ICK!

If she didn't say "Lord, I love the way you hold me"... it would be a really nice love song to someone you love... but adding "Lord" in there... well...

Hold Me by Jamie Grace and Toby Mac

(I love, I love, I love, I love the way You hold me)
(I love, I love, I love, I love the way You hold me)
(I love, I love, I love, I love the way You hold me)
(I love, I love, I love, I love the way You, the way Ya, the way Ya)

I have no problem with that

Psa 91:14 "Because he holds fast to me in love, I will deliver him; I will protect him, because he knows my name.

Psa 139:10 even there your hand shall lead me, and your right hand shall hold me.

Php 1:7 It is right for me to feel this way about you all, because I hold you in my heart, for you are all partakers with me of grace, both in my imprisonment and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Originalist

"Jesus is my boyfriend" songs. Yes, they are wretched. I don't feel right telling the Lord, "I want to put my head on your chest and hear the sound of your heart beating". Sounds queer as a 3 dollar bill.

Yes..again that is how jaded the western mind has become. We are so hyper afraid of "gayness" perceived that we cringe at anything like this.

This is how little boys learned it's bad for them to cry. Bunch of rubbish imo

Luk 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

Luk 16:23 And in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

Joh 13:23 But there was one of His disciples leaning upon Jesus' bosom, the one whom Jesus loved.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Originalist

"Jesus is my boyfriend" songs. Yes, they are wretched. I don't feel right telling the Lord, "I want to put my head on your chest and hear the sound of your heart beating". Sounds queer as a 3 dollar bill.

The more I seek you,
The more I find you
The more I find you, the more I love you
I want to sit at your feet
Drink from the cup in your hand.
Lay back against you and breath, feel your heart beat
This love is so deep, its more than I can stand
I melt in your peace, its overwhelming

Read more: Kari Jobe - The More I Seek You Lyrics | MetroLyrics

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Yes..again that is how jaded the western mind has become. We are so hyper afraid of "gayness" perceived that we cringe at anything like this.

This is how little boys learned it's bad for them to cry. Bunch of rubbish imo

Luk 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

Luk 16:23 And in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

Joh 13:23 But there was one of His disciples leaning upon Jesus' bosom, the one whom Jesus loved.

Apples and oranges comparison. I don't think Lazarus was trying to hear the sound of Father Abraham's heart beating. We throw away the songs that teach doctrine and exalt his majesty for these silly touchy feely ones. No thanks.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Agreed. There is a fine line crossed between worshiping the Lord as a Holy Mighty and Awesome God, and bringing Him down to a human level, and speaking of Him as your boyfriend or lover.

Oh I don't thinks so.

If we are Oneness then we believed he did exactly that. He became a man. However I object to the boyfriend stuff

However from the scriptures I posted you can see even the bible speaks of God in these ways and the bible constantly anthropomorphizes God and with not only physical attributes but the same passionate emotions we have

Don't forget the church is depicted as the Bride of Christ

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The more I seek you,
The more I find you
The more I find you, the more I love you
I want to sit at your feet
Drink from the cup in your hand.
Lay back against you and breath, feel your heart beat
This love is so deep, its more than I can stand
I melt in your peace, its overwhelming

Read more: Kari Jobe - The More I Seek You Lyrics | MetroLyrics

That would be one of the first songs to be banned if I pastored a church. Sorry. I'm really not trying to be mean. I'm just weary of the direction worship music has gone.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Sean

Think about this....there is no passage in our bible that uses the phrase "relationship with God"....That is taught by all of us these days, it seems. However it is a Human term(human to human).

The Bible only teaches us a term called "walk with God".

If you have a "relationship" with God, it changes with circumstances and moods.

If you just simply "walk with God". It is set in stone.

I dont like to tell folks that they need to develop a relationship with God, because it brings God down to their mental level, where they can even dare to cuss at God when things go wrong for them(like a buddy).

Rather, I teach them to walk with God and let Him be Almighty in their minds always, and dont you dare charge God foolishly, no matter what the circumstances you face. HE IS ALMIGHTY...



To me, the phrase "relationship with God" is some kind of a new age Christian term.

That is what this new music is promoting also.....

Wow...so you don't have a relationship with God?

1. the state of being connected or related
2. association by blood or marriage; kinship
3. the mutual dealings, connections, or feelings that exist between two parties, countries, people, etc: a business relationship

I am connected to God by the Spirit and related to God as a son of God.

Further I have mutual dealings. I share in the Divine nature with God. There are actually feelings that are shared. He loves me and I love Him

I genuinely feel sorry for anyone that does not realize that or experience it

[Originalist]

Doctrine and exaltation all wrapped into one....

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Apples and oranges comparison. I don't think Lazarus was trying to hear the sound of Father Abraham's heart beating. We throw away the songs that teach doctrine and exalt his majesty for these silly touchy feely ones. No thanks.

So you are ok with lying on another man's chest as long as they are dead and you can't hear their heart beat?

We aren't talking about throwing away songs that teach doctrine. We are discussing how some of you guys feel about these songs and God