I really like this article. This, IMO, is more important that acting militant about it.
“Duck Dynasty”: Let’s Deal in Real Reality
This doesn’t mean we should bury our heads in the sand about genuine free speech and free exercise violations in our theoretically free nation; it just means we ought to be more circumspect than reactionary, more wise than whiny, more joyful than outraged. As “reality” just got the ironic quote-marks taken off of it, maybe this cultural shifting will serve towards a sifting of the “real” Christians from the real ones, the cultural from the Spiritual. Evangelicals need to get real.
Bleh...if the writer was in politics, he'd be pushing for the moderate Republican.
He's completely off with his points, speaking of which, he totally skipped #4. Look at the article, there's a 1), 2), 3), and 5)...no 4).
#1 isn't the issue. A&E and the guys know how to brand the show. What A&E did wasn't about branding, it was about censorship and illegally penalizing Phil for his religious opinions.
#2 isn't the issue either. It's just rank amateur to write something like that. No kidding, Sherlock. But the law does institute safeguards against religious discrimination.
#3 is just a mess. Not sure what he point is, and he probably forgot what the point was.
After that, I just don't care what this guy writes.
1) Every employer is required to abide by the Civil Rights Act, which includes safeguards against religious discrimination. Robertson was suspended or fired for quoting a Bible verse and giving his personal, religious views. That is illegal.
I don't know about the discrimination laws to comment. You could be right.
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2) It wasn't Discovery, it was A&E, but who cares; you're right, they "acted stupidly" (to coin an obama phrase) and had a knee-jerk reaction instead of making a calculated decision.
Oops, sorry. Shows how familiar I am with that show!
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3) It may still be a free country with free speech, unless said speech is personal or religious beliefs against a certain, very small, but very vocal percentage of America.
Again, free speech is not the issue. There may be a discrimination issue, I don't know. Does anti-discrimination law apply to forums and posts on forums? If so, watch out. My posting style will take a dramatic turn!
Seriously, though, I don't think AFF is obligated to allow me or anyone else to post anything I want to. And I don't want to post anything I want to. (As silly as that sounds, maybe you get my meaning. Or not. )
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Bleh...if the writer was in politics, he'd be pushing for the moderate Republican.
He's completely off with his points, speaking of which, he totally skipped #4. Look at the article, there's a 1), 2), 3), and 5)...no 4).
#1 isn't the issue. A&E and the guys know how to brand the show. What A&E did wasn't about branding, it was about censorship and illegally penalizing Phil for his religious opinions.
#2 isn't the issue either. It's just rank amateur to write something like that. No kidding, Sherlock. But the law does institute safeguards against religious discrimination.
#3 is just a mess. Not sure what he point is, and he probably forgot what the point was.
After that, I just don't care what this guy writes.
Dumb.
LOL! I believe his point would be that we need to be careful how we react and not appear to be as militant as we view the gay movement. That's what I got from it.
"the believers in the Bible did not protest so much as praise."
I've posted enough political rhetoric to know that my words are not as effective as prayer.
Basically all he did was quote scripture!
Speaking with GQ, Robertson lamented that when "everything is blurred on what's right and what's wrong ... sin becomes fine." So just what qualifies as sinful in his book?
"Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there — bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men," he declared.
Phil probably should have cut himself off at this point (considering he's a national TV star), but instead he paraphrased Corinthians. "Don't be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers — they won’t inherit the kingdom of God," he warned. "Don't deceive yourself. It's not right."
Ok, haven't seen this show or A&E episode causing all the buzz, but really though, are people nuts?
Let's assume he said something offensive (a big assumption), ok, so what? people are gonna offend you in life, get over yourself...lol
Anyway, these days, "being offended is a profitable business"
Btw, on behalf of all drunkards, I am offended...
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I think Phil sort of did compare homosexuality to promiscuity and bestiality, but I don't really care that he did. He said, "Everything is blurred on what’s right and what’s wrong… Sin becomes fine. Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."
I also like what he said about sin not being logical, but the quote is too explicit to post here. (found at the same link you posted)
I typed my post, was on the phone, logged me out and lost my post.
One more time. I think that in arguing his case, he would argue that he uses "morph" to reference the organism of sin and was not equating homosexuality to beastiality, but that sin morphs into more sin - he goes on to say - "Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers -- they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right."
So, I took it upon first read referring to a progression of sin. Of course, we have to know that GQ's purpose was to set him up for a fall.
A&E fowls up 'Duck' flap: Column Steve Deace
The 'tolerance' society demands from Christians really is silent compliance.
The sad truth is most American Christians would prefer to leave people in their sin provided Christians are left alone in turn.
For Christians, that is total disobedience to the Gospel. That's why the culture is at this point in the first place. The American Church has too often been plagued by scandal, or has scandalously pursued money and fame more than the healing of a lost and broken world.
Am I the ONLY person who has never watched an episode of Duck Dynasty? I'm just frustrated because dozens of folks on my facebook newsfeed have Photos of this guy in the place of their regular photos and now I can't just look at the photo to know who said what.. I have to read the names on every post. LOL
Depending on the fall-out, I could see this being the opening "shot heard around the world" in the endgame of the U.S.'s culture war.
Take a walk through Wal-mart. Every aisle, almost, is Duck Dynasty items, from shirts, to hats, to towels, to mugs, to whatever.
As Wal-mart goes, so goes the nation. If they respond negatively, pull products, and etc., then you know the fan will have been thoroughly hit by you know what.
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