Are you serious? No plan of salvation in the Gospels ... or in the epistles??? Like Romans?
Romans contains a discussion of salvation from the perspective of those who are saved.
You do not find the proper response to the Gospel spelled out in as clear and distinct a manner in the Epistles as you do in Acts.
Acts records what the Apostles said to sinner.
Are you of the PCI persuasion, that is do you believe a person is saved at repentance, even before they are baptized in Jesus Name and filled with the Holy Ghost?
If so, I understand where you are coming from.
Personally, I believe the New Birth as per Acts 2:38 and John 3:5 are absolutely essential.
Romans contains a discussion of salvation from the perspective of those who are saved.
You do not find the proper response to the Gospel spelled out in as clear and distinct a manner in the Epistles as you do in Acts.
Acts records what the Apostles said to sinner.
Are you of the PCI persuasion, that is do you believe a person is saved at repentance, even before they are baptized in Jesus Name and filled with the Holy Ghost?
If so, I understand where you are coming from.
Personally, I believe the New Birth as per Acts 2:38 and John 3:5 are absolutely essential.
CS.. .... seriously ....do you think there weren't new unsaved people sitting in these churches that Paul wrote to .... don't you think he knew this also ..... that some of the listeners were not saved ....
... perhaps it is paradigm you have for a long time that you need to examine
The general idea among PAJC OP's is that the New Testament is divided into three sections which are called: Gospels, Acts, and Epistles.
We were taught in a UPC Bible School, or by Search For Truth, that salvation is not found in the epistles, only in the Book of Acts. We were taught that the epistles were written to folks who were already saved so there was nothing in them that told how a person could be saved.
While I do basically agree with the way the NT is divided in that chart I do not believe that there is nothing in the epistles that references how folks were saved or how folks could get saved. This would be like saying that a preacher would not preach about salvation or refer to how folks got saved when he was preaching to the church --that he would only address something like that if he was speaking to unsaved folks. Or it would be like saying that when those epistles were read in congregations there would be no unsaved folks there to hear them. Yes, there are references in the epistles of how folks got saved and how to be saved.
CS.. .... seriously ....do you think there weren't new unsaved people sitting in these churches that Paul wrote to .... don't you think he knew this also ..... that some of the listeners were not saved ....
... perhaps it is paradigm you have for a long time that you need to examine
The general idea among PAJC OP's is that the New Testament is divided into three sections which are called: Gospels, Acts, and Epistles.
We were taught in a UPC Bible School, or by Search For Truth, that salvation is not found in the epistles, only in the Book of Acts. We were taught that the epistles were written to folks who were already saved so there was nothing in them that told how a person could be saved.
While I do basically agree with the way the NT is divided in that chart I do not believe that there is nothing in the epistles that references how folks were saved or how folks could get saved. This would be like saying that a preacher would not preach about salvation or refer to how folks got saved when he was preaching to the church --that he would only address something like that if he was speaking to unsaved folks. Or it would be like saying that when those epistles were read in congregations there would be no unsaved folks there to hear them. Yes, there are references in the epistles of how folks got saved and how to be saved.
CS.. .... seriously ....do you think there weren't new unsaved people sitting in these churches that Paul wrote to .... don't you think he knew this also ..... that some of the listeners were not saved ....
... perhaps it is paradigm you have for a long time that you need to examine
The general idea among PAJC OP's is that the New Testament is divided into three sections which are called: Gospels, Acts, and Epistles.
We were taught in a UPC Bible School, or by Search For Truth, that salvation is not found in the epistles, only in the Book of Acts. We were taught that the epistles were written to folks who were already saved so there was nothing in them that told how a person could be saved.
While I do basically agree with the way the NT is divided in that chart I do not believe that there is nothing in the epistles that references how folks were saved or how folks could get saved. This would be like saying that a preacher would not preach about salvation or refer to how folks got saved when he was preaching to the church --that he would only address something like that if he was speaking to unsaved folks. Or it would be like saying that when those epistles were read in congregations there would be no unsaved folks there to hear them. Yes, there are references in the epistles of how folks got saved and how to be saved.
CS.. .... seriously ....do you think there weren't new unsaved people sitting in these churches that Paul wrote to .... don't you think he knew this also ..... that some of the listeners were not saved ....
... perhaps it is paradigm you have for a long time that you need to examine
The general idea among PAJC OP's is that the New Testament is divided into three sections which are called: Gospels, Acts, and Epistles.
We were taught in a UPC Bible School, or by Search For Truth, that salvation is not found in the epistles, only in the Book of Acts. We were taught that the epistles were written to folks who were already saved so there was nothing in them that told how a person could be saved.
While I do basically agree with the way the NT is divided in that chart I do not believe that there is nothing in the epistles that references how folks were saved or how folks could get saved. This would be like saying that a preacher would not preach about salvation or refer to how folks got saved when he was preaching to the church --that he would only address something like that if he was speaking to unsaved folks. Or it would be like saying that when those epistles were read in congregations there would be no unsaved folks there to hear them. Yes, there are references in the epistles of how folks got saved and how to be saved.
Are you of the PCI persuasion, that is do you believe a person is saved at repentance, even before they are baptized in Jesus Name and filled with the Holy Ghost?
I am of the "Jesus saves me" persuasion. I believed we are saved through faith ... salvation and new life was made available to us at Calvary and His Resurrection... starting with repentance and confession, we continue in a faith walk ... from faith to faith ... obeying all of His commandments ... not centering on just one.
Timothy:
3:14 But you remain in the things which you have learned and have been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them. 3:15 From infancy, you have known the holy Scriptures which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith, which is in Christ Jesus. 3:16 Every Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for instruction in righteousness, 3:17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
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