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Old 04-08-2013, 10:02 PM
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Larry my friend one of the few things we agree.
It was bound to happen sooner or later!

We're not as far apart as all that!
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:16 PM
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You ask:
Are there people who think they know God's voice, but don't?

Are there people who think they are saved, but are not?

Are there people who misunderstood the Bible's instructions for salvation?

Of course there are! The question is, are you one of them? You don't have to be. You can KNOW Him, Timmy. He is faithful and true. Don't be like the man in I Timothy 6:4, 5-- who: has a morbid interest in controversial questions and disputes about words, out of which arise envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions, 5 and constant friction between men of depraved mind and deprived of the truth,

I said to you before and I'll repeat it hear:

John 10:27-28 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

1Jn 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.


It's not about those "other people" who think they hear God's voice but don't. It's not about those who "think they are saved, but aren't and it's not about those people who "misunderstand."

It's all about you Timmy! He died for YOU! His sheep hear His voice and follow Him. They trust in Him because they know their Shepherd. They KNOW they have eternal life.

Are you one of His sheep Timmy? Do you hear His voice?

It's not about me Timmy. It's all about you!
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:23 PM
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Sigh.
I know, right!

John 10:1, 10 (KJV)
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:47 AM
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Re: Biblical Facts on Divine Healing

Below is a letter written in 1911 by Dr. John G. Lake, the so-called "Apostle to Africa," sent to Carrie Judd Montgomery. It illustrates the fundamental difference between the traditional practice of praying for the sick or "intercession" for healing as compared to the Biblical method.

The success experience by Dr. Lake both in his five years in Africa and his subsequent ministry here in the States, is a matter of historical record and can be found by a simple Internet Search or by visiting any of the following links:

http://www.jglm.org/index.php?option...d=84&Itemid=95

https://larrylyates.wordpress.com/20...ith-and-works/

https://larrylyates.wordpress.com/20...f-john-g-lake/

John G Lake’s Letter to Carrie Judd Montgomery

April 22, 1911
Mrs. Carrie Judd Montgomery,

I wrote some time ago to a missionary by the name of Hoover, at Valparaiso, Chile, on the subject of divine healing which embodies what I regard as the secret of the aggressive ministry of healing that the Pentecostal Movement of South Africa demonstrates.

I feel sister, that there is a step in this ministry in advance of what the (Pentecostal) Movement in general enjoys, and God has laid it deeply on my soul to present this particular phase of the exercise of the dominion of Jesus Christ, and that the secret of our success here in this ministry, is in our teaching our workers to exercise the dominion of God through the Holy Ghost, and that He has already put in their soul when He baptized them; while in other branches of this work they still follow largely the old line of intercession for the sick.

We do not pray for God to come and heal as in the old days. But, looking into His face, believing that He has baptized us in the Holy Ghost, and that we have received the power of God through that baptism, command in the Name of Jesus, the devil and his works to depart.

I am convinced that there is a secret and better place of interceding for the sick, in exercising a dominion of God over the devil and his sicknesses, that when learned by the Pentecostal Movement, will put the ministry of healing miles in advance of where it is now.

“His name, through faith in His name hath made this man strong.”
“Such as I have, give I thee.” “Aeneas, Jesus maketh thee whole.”

We have never caught the force of Jesus’ words. “Proclaim liberty to the captive.”

“Whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, shall be loosed in heaven.”

It was only after I had received the Baptism in the Holy Ghost, that the dominion of God entered my soul, that compelled me to command sickness and the devil to leave, rather than to intercede with the Lord to take them away.

Your brother in Christ,
John G. Lake

The record of Dr. Lake's success speaks for itself; his message was Scripturally sound and theologically flawless and has been documented repeatedly.

Those of us following in the footsteps of men such as this are experiencing similar results worldwide. The subject of Divine Healing may be a hot topic for debate among those who reject the clear teaching of Scripture, however, I have found that a man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.

The controversy continues. Meanwhile, multiplied thousands are being healed.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:55 AM
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Re: Biblical Facts on Divine Healing

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Below is a letter written in 1911 by Dr. John G. Lake, the so-called "Apostle to Africa," sent to Carrie Judd Montgomery. It illustrates the fundamental difference between the traditional practice of praying for the sick or "intercession" for healing as compared to the Biblical method.

The success experience by Dr. Lake both in his five years in Africa and his subsequent ministry here in the States, is a matter of historical record and can be found by a simple Internet Search or by visiting any of the following links:

http://www.jglm.org/index.php?option...d=84&Itemid=95

https://larrylyates.wordpress.com/20...ith-and-works/

https://larrylyates.wordpress.com/20...f-john-g-lake/

John G Lake’s Letter to Carrie Judd Montgomery

April 22, 1911
Mrs. Carrie Judd Montgomery,

I wrote some time ago to a missionary by the name of Hoover, at Valparaiso, Chile, on the subject of divine healing which embodies what I regard as the secret of the aggressive ministry of healing that the Pentecostal Movement of South Africa demonstrates.

I feel sister, that there is a step in this ministry in advance of what the (Pentecostal) Movement in general enjoys, and God has laid it deeply on my soul to present this particular phase of the exercise of the dominion of Jesus Christ, and that the secret of our success here in this ministry, is in our teaching our workers to exercise the dominion of God through the Holy Ghost, and that He has already put in their soul when He baptized them; while in other branches of this work they still follow largely the old line of intercession for the sick.

We do not pray for God to come and heal as in the old days. But, looking into His face, believing that He has baptized us in the Holy Ghost, and that we have received the power of God through that baptism, command in the Name of Jesus, the devil and his works to depart.

I am convinced that there is a secret and better place of interceding for the sick, in exercising a dominion of God over the devil and his sicknesses, that when learned by the Pentecostal Movement, will put the ministry of healing miles in advance of where it is now.

“His name, through faith in His name hath made this man strong.”
“Such as I have, give I thee.” “Aeneas, Jesus maketh thee whole.”

We have never caught the force of Jesus’ words. “Proclaim liberty to the captive.”

“Whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, shall be loosed in heaven.”

It was only after I had received the Baptism in the Holy Ghost, that the dominion of God entered my soul, that compelled me to command sickness and the devil to leave, rather than to intercede with the Lord to take them away.

Your brother in Christ,
John G. Lake

The record of Dr. Lake's success speaks for itself; his message was Scripturally sound and theologically flawless and has been documented repeatedly.

Those of us following in the footsteps of men such as this are experiencing similar results worldwide. The subject of Divine Healing may be a hot topic for debate among those who reject the clear teaching of Scripture, however, I have found that a man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.

The controversy continues. Meanwhile, multiplied thousands are being healed.
Wasn't this guy a trinitarian?
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:07 PM
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Wasn't this guy a trinitarian?
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:08 PM
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:19 PM
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Re: Biblical Facts on Divine Healing

TGBTG, apparently even John entertained a similar thought (sort of), when he questioned how one that was not a disciple of Christ Jesus could cast out demons through the "power inherent in the name of Jesus"...

And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.

And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
(Luke 9:49-50)

God honors one's faith, even if it be those who are not of 'like precious faith.' The event noted gives us indisputable evidence of this fact.

I had occasion to witness to a young nurse working in an Intensive Care Unit at a local hospital who told me of an incident when, after reading of Paul having laid hands on the sick and invoking "the name of the Lord," healing resulted, she ventured to do the same and one of her patients who had been connected to life support was released from the hospital in perfect health a month later.... and she never professed to be a Christian at all!

Two things, I believe, caused this: first, she believed (had faith), and secondly, she acted upon it. God always honors faith, even among those who are not His own adopted sons.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:56 PM
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Two things, I believe, caused this: first, she believed (had faith), and secondly, she acted upon it. God always honors faith, even among those who are not His own adopted sons.
Oh, I believe trinitarians are adopted sons of God. I was trying to poke at larrylates for quoting a trinitarian...lol
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Oh, I believe trinitarians are adopted sons of God. I was trying to poke at larrylates for quoting a trinitarian...lol
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