If you are trinitarian.....

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Ridiculous post

I agree. But then again, so was yours.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Trinitarians can claim they don't believe in 3 gods all day but that's exactly what they believe.

I was labeled myself "Trinitarian", but never held to a belief that in any way resembled a belief in three Gods. Admittedly, some self proclaimed "Trinitarians" do hold to views that sound very tri-theistic. But they are not true Trinitarians as I see it.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Originalist

I was labeled myself "Trinitarian", but never held to a belief that in any way resembled a belief in three Gods. Admittedly, some self proclaimed "Trinitarians" do hold to views that sound very tri-theistic. But they are not true Trinitarians as I see it.

A true Trinitarian believes there are 3 co equal, co eternal persons each one of them God in their own right.

Anyone who does not agree with this classic version of it is not a TRUE Trinitarian. This is what I have heard from many of them over the years.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

A true Trinitarian believes there are 3 co equal, co eternal persons each one of them God in their own right.

Anyone who does not agree with this classic version of it is not a TRUE Trinitarian. This is what I have heard from many of them over the years.

The historical doctrine teaches there is One being that is Tri-personal. Convoluted? Yes. Contrived? Yes...Yes and Yes again but never the less THAT is how there is "One God"...not One as in a unity or meeting of the minds but in fact there is just numerically one in number God/Being who is somehow Tripersonal

As Jason Dulle says...a modified form of Tritheism.

[trialedbyfire]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

A true Trinitarian believes there are 3 co equal, co eternal persons each one of them God in their own right.

Anyone who does not agree with this classic version of it is not a TRUE Trinitarian. This is what I have heard from many of them over the years.

I don't know many true trinitarians. I know trinitarians who couldn't explain the trinity if you pointed a gun to their head though...

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by trialedbyfire

I don't know many true trinitarians. I know trinitarians who couldn't explain the trinity if you pointed a gun to their head though...

Explain Jesus in heaven while Jesus was on earth dying and crying out to Jesus in heaven.

[deafdriscoll]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Someone who believes in three Gods and is going to hell?

for the record- i do not believe in 3 gods. one god that is beyond human understanding. 3 persons or parts to him.
I have an earthly body that has a spirit. that makes two seperate parts of me. so is it too harrd to believe that God can make himself into 3 parts/people.

[deafdriscoll]

Originally Posted by crakjak

As usual, OP's tell others what they believe, just so that, they may refute what others don't believe!!! And condemn them to hell! Exactly the attitude and actions for which Jesus, rebuked the religious leaders of his day.

Trinitarians do not believe in three GOD's, they believe that God is much more complex than humans, in that "He" can have fellowship within the godhead. Fact is, God is not human, therefore our ability to define "him" is lacking at best. Which is great, "He" is incomparable, and "past finding out..." God is greater than all our definitions!!! "He" is beyond us...! Yet, has revealed his attitudes, his nature, and his LOVE thru, the man Jesus Christ!!! I fellowship with folks that were raised "trinitarian" and as they have pursued God, and relationship with Jesus, their hearts, attitudes and lives are definitively Christian!! So, I defend them from your vile attacks and marginalizations!!!! They have taken on the "name" in faith and in truth, not just thru some formulistic pronunciation of another!

Of course, just because they call that fellowship "persons of God" instead of "manifestations of God" they are not Christians, and further they are lost and going to burn in literal fire endlessly. SE, even equals this opinion equal to homosexually, therefore needlessly offending two people groups. And prides himself in speaking of God in these matters. Show me this attitude in Jesus, anywhere in the Gospels????

Of course, OP's, can have all kinds of varying opinions and doctrines, fuss and argue among themselves, and still be acceptable to God, or not.

Who really is lost? Not condemned to endless fire, just lost??

Thank you for your kindness-Dennis

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by deafdriscoll

for the record- i do not believe in 3 gods. one god that is beyond human understanding. 3 persons or parts to him.
I have an earthly body that has a spirit. that makes two seperate parts of me. so is it too harrd to believe that God can make himself into 3 parts/people.

I don't believe that you believe in three Gods, but Trinitarianism taken it it's conclusion does result in polytheism, IMO. Just as oneness theology taken to it's conclusion results in two Jesus'. Both theological viewpoints fall back on God having multiple personalities interacting with each other as if they're separate persons, loving each other, one praying to the other, one a Father, the other a Son, one atointing the other, both dwelling within each other, ect. Both theological viewpoints fall back on God simply interacting with Himself with each personality acting as if it's God relating to other personalities within Himself but it's really one God who shares Himself with Himself.

[Farfel]

Originally Posted by trialedbyfire

I don't know many true trinitarians. I know trinitarians who couldn't explain the trinity if you pointed a gun to their head though...

That goes both ways. There are people who are Oneness that don't understand what they believe.