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Old 12-06-2012, 06:48 PM
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Z is suing the news org that changed the tape to make him sound racist! Hope he wins!
I hope he gets millions.
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Z is suing the news org that changed the tape to make him sound racist! Hope he wins!
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:21 PM
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Re: Newly Released Photo in Martin/Zimmerman Case

I wonder if zim is purposely trying to make it so that he cannot get a fair trial.

By the time this is over, it would have been on the news so much, if in the small chance he is actually convicted, I wonder if he can appeal the conviction, claiming the jury was partial.

Suing NBC could be a step in that direction.
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Depending on what happened, that is so very true.

Trayvon could have chose not to start beating up on Zimmerman.

Zimmerman could have stayed in the car.

But the facts are, TM beat Z.

Here is a question...TM was shot by Z...Z was beat up by TM...did TM have any wounds suggesting Z was beating him up?


That's what a TRIAL IS FOR. To examine all the facts and this story shows that we have not had all the facts and that the Police were suppressing some of the facts.


Says who?


Kid wearing a hoodie, cutting between houses. If I saw a kid with a hoodie cutting between houses, Id be suspicious too before I ever saw what skin color he had


Because TM was black and in your prejudiced mind, Z is a white man? You are prejudiced. You've prejudged the "white" man before all the evidence is weighed in a court of law


In Florida, yes

Dude, there is no racial prejudice against zim in my summation of zim's actions.

My summation acknowledges the prejudice that many, many have against young black males. You can try to justify the prejudice with "facts", but all that does is confirm the prejudice. Most people don't act on their prejudices before knowing the facts or the person-- but zim did.

Martin was targetted, in part, because he was black. It was zim's prejudging of Martin that started this whole tragedy.

"He looks suspicious walking in the rain with his head down."

What was he supposed to do, walk with his head up? It's raining and he didn't have an umbrella!

"Looking around..." He's not familiar with the area, or maybe he's just walking around because he can.

zim prejudged Martin and he was tragically wrong!


Listen to zim's 911 call. You can hear the prejudice in his words. zim was convinced that Martin was up to no good before the confrontation. Martin realized that he was being followed (harrassed), before there was a confrontation. Why was he being followed, because zim thought he was up to no good.

There had been burglaries in the past in that apartment complex and the suspects were black males. Martin was a black male. So he assumed the worst about Martin.

Problem with assuming that Martin was a burglar was that it didn't make sense for the time of the evening we're talking about. Neither was the weather favorable for breaking in and stealing.

Steal what? A tv, playstaion? It was raining! It would have been ruined! Steal jewelry? This was an apartment complex! Steal furniture? He was by himself and it was raining!

So what ws he gonna steal on an evening with steady rain, by himself, at dinner time when most households will have atleast someone home, around 7pm at night?


Educated people who study sociology admit that this was a case of stereotyping, but somehow it's too difficult for you to comprehend.
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Most people don't act on their prejudices before knowing the facts or the person-- but zim did..........AND JD DID, DOES AND HAS CONTINUED TO !!!!!! btw profiling? you bet i sure aint looking for any blondes in hoodies when over 50 plus percent of the crime is committed by a percentage of the 12 percent of the population that is black !! "When your looking for fruitcakes you check the garden not the library" !
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Dude, there is no racial prejudice against zim in my summation of zim's actions.

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Dude, you are so wound up and subjective that you read "racial" when I never used the word!

Think about it JD! You are not able to think rationally. You approach this emotionally. That is why we need competent juries and a forum such as a court to examine the facts
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Dude, you are so wound up and subjective that you read "racial" when I never used the word!

Think about it JD! You are not able to think rationally. You approach this emotionally. That is why we need competent juries and a forum such as a court to examine the facts
He painted himself into a corner on this months ago and cant figure a way out
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This is why we are suppose to have impartial judges and juries. I would vote guilty for manslaughter because he should have waited for the police. But, I know the actual law for self defense doesn't read that way.
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Re: Newly Released Photo in Martin/Zimmerman Case

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Dude, you are so wound up and subjective that you read "racial" when I never used the word!

Think about it JD! You are not able to think rationally. You approach this emotionally. That is why we need competent juries and a forum such as a court to examine the facts
Praxeas,


Calmly I am stating that race played a role in zim's decision to target Martin.

I have pointed out that thinking that Martin was going to burglarize anyone was irrational for a multiple of reasons. Do you understand why it was irrational for zim to think that Martin was going to burglarize someone?
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Calmly I am stating that race played a role in zim's decision to target Martin.

I have pointed out that thinking that Martin was going to burglarize anyone was irrational for a multiple of reasons. Do you understand why it was irrational for zim to think that Martin was going to burglarize someone?
Reread what I posted....again I did not say you were racially prejudiced against Z. You have yet to acknowlege what I realy did say.

Also you confused what I said about emotions with being calm
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