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02-25-2013, 04:34 PM
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Re: Anyone know this Preacher or EX Preacher
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Thank you very much Timmy. Very kind of you.
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02-25-2013, 04:50 PM
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No ma'am I don't think that's it at all. I've spoken with him and I'm connected with him as our stories are similar. He did believe and preached it as I did but there came a time in his life, and mine, where he questioned and there was nothing there besides faith to back it up.
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Okay, in the context of the quote that makes sense of what he was saying. Thanks for clarifying.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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02-25-2013, 04:52 PM
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Okay, in the context of the quote that makes sense of what he was saying. Thanks for clarifying.
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During his speeches, he talks about the process of leaving his preacher job. “If you don’t believe, then you will be like me – you’ll suddenly find yourself where you only have two choices,” DeWitt told a group in Johnson County, Kansas, earlier this year.
“You can either be honest that you don’t believe ... or you can pretend that you do,” he said. “Which is what so many people are doing and that is called faith.”
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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02-25-2013, 05:27 PM
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Re: Anyone know this Preacher or EX Preacher
How does one realize they are atheist? Is that like realizing one is gay?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-25-2013, 05:30 PM
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Re: Anyone know this Preacher or EX Preacher
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How does one realize they are atheist? Is that like realizing one is gay?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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02-25-2013, 05:59 PM
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Re: Anyone know this Preacher or EX Preacher
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How does one realize they are atheist? Is that like realizing one is gay?
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No, not even close and that's a poor comparison imho. It's when you accept the fact that there is no evidence outside of faith that anyone is there.
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02-25-2013, 06:01 PM
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No, not even close and that's a poor comparison imho. It's when you accept the fact that there is no evidence outside of faith that anyone is there.
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So, you lose your faith? Or decide there is no God?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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02-25-2013, 06:03 PM
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Re: Anyone know this Preacher or EX Preacher
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During his speeches, he talks about the process of leaving his preacher job. “If you don’t believe, then you will be like me – you’ll suddenly find yourself where you only have two choices,” DeWitt told a group in Johnson County, Kansas, earlier this year.
“You can either be honest that you don’t believe ... or you can pretend that you do,” he said. “Which is what so many people are doing and that is called faith.”
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He's speaking more towards even what I did myself. You keep wanting to believe thst god is there and "live by faith not by sight" even though deep down you feel that there is nothing there. In other words do you step out and say "I no longer believe" or do you deny your disbelief and try to walk by faith and pretend something is there when you feel there isn't.
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02-25-2013, 06:04 PM
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Re: Anyone know this Preacher or EX Preacher
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So, you lose your faith? Or decide there is no God?
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Personally speaking I didn't lose my faith I willingly gave it up because I felt that there was nothing/no one there after all.
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02-25-2013, 06:04 PM
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Re: Anyone know this Preacher or EX Preacher
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He's speaking more towards even what I did myself. You keep wanting to believe thst god is there and "live by faith not by sight" even though deep down you feel that there is nothing there. In other words do you step out and say "I no longer believe" or do you deny your disbelief and try to walk by faith and pretend something is there when you feel there isn't.
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Okay, thanks.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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