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Old 04-25-2012, 05:47 PM
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Good grief, I don't know who to smack.
ROFL !!

Been waiting on you to show up.
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:52 PM
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I already posted this information. And why reboot? I'm not supporting Romney - ever. I might vote for him in the fall. Depends on how many more lies he tells between now and then.

If he apologizes to Newt for his dishonest, lying character assassination and/or pays off his debt, I might be inclined to vote for him.

Newt knew it was a long shot and so did I, but I supported him because I believed and still believe him to be the best candidate.

I certainly wasn't going to go for a candidate just because I thought he could win. If I did that, I would have voted for Obama last time around.

And I certainly wasn't going to go for a candidate that the Elitist crowd endorsed. I mean, it's like, "Here's your sign." LOL!

But, go for it. Status quo is working in America. We can't tell much difference between the parties anymore.
Maybe Romney could get Newt to help him with his apology since Newt is incredibly creative at them. His explanation about his last two adulterous affairs was creative and amusing to me. I saw him in an interview say that we should ignore all that ugly business now because now he is a grandfather and switched from being a Baptist to a Roman Catholic. Can't get any more creative than that!
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:56 PM
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I haven't looked into the accusation of lies on Romney's part, he may have and I don't like any leader or potential one who lies. Believe me, out of the final four, Romney was my least favorite. Santorum was my first choice, then it would've been Paul, then Gingrich, then Romney.

My reservations about Gingrich had to do with his past infidelities, although that in and of itself is not a complete deal breaker for me. It's that coupled with his arrogance that kept me from voting for him. But based on your criteria, honesty, how could you look beyond Newt's three marriages and the cheating he committed on his wife? And he was cheating while crucifying Clinton for doing the same---add hypocrisy to the list.
I was pretty much ashamed, angry, and embarressed by all of the Republican candidates in the primaries. They all engaged in mudslinging that was not accurate.

I know PO will find it hard to believe but Newt himself said some whoppers. His attacks on Romney for Romney's work with Bain was so anti capitalist it was nuts. I was shocked Newt would cherry pick and only talk about the companies that Bain sold or closed, not all of the ones they injected money into and saved jobs and created jobs. That was the kind of dishonest skewing of the facts Dems do. My point is all of them were guilty. It is not as if Newt was some angel himself.
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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I was pretty much ashamed, angry, and embarressed by all of the Republican candidates in the primaries. They all engaged in mudslinging that was not accurate.
I agree. It mystifies me that these guys were the best the Republicans had to offer.
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I agree. It mystifies me that these guys were the best the Republicans had to offer.
There was a for drawn conclusion that Barry would carry the vote I think.

I hope that is not true!
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Maybe Romney could get Newt to help him with his apology since Newt is incredibly creative at them. His explanation about his last two adulterous affairs was creative and amusing to me. I saw him in an interview say that we should ignore all that ugly business now because now he is a grandfather and switched from being a Baptist to a Roman Catholic. Can't get any more creative than that!
I suppose as a Christian we are taught not to look back and dwell on past failures. If in his life now he sees himself as repentant and settled as a grandfather, father, husband and happy in the Catholic Church, then why keep digging up that old bone and chewing on it? When does Gingrich get to move on? If he came to your church, would you allow him to move on?
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I was pretty much ashamed, angry, and embarressed by all of the Republican candidates in the primaries. They all engaged in mudslinging that was not accurate.

I know PO will find it hard to believe but Newt himself said some whoppers. His attacks on Romney for Romney's work with Bain was so anti capitalist it was nuts. I was shocked Newt would cherry pick and only talk about the companies that Bain sold or closed, not all of the ones they injected money into and saved jobs and created jobs. That was the kind of dishonest skewing of the facts Dems do. My point is all of them were guilty. It is not as if Newt was some angel himself.
There is a conversation to be had concerning "crony" and "vulture" capitalism. Even though capitalism is a self-disciplinary system, the Left tries to draw on the "crony" and "vulture" part to demonize ALL of capitalism. That is one of the reasons for the Occupy Wall Street protests.

You can look into Dade International and find out that Romney and his associates at Bain were accused of professional mismanagement and unjust enrichment - meaning, when someone gets wealthy at the expense of others without any type of compensation. Another legal definition would describe that as the acquisition of property or wealth gained by chance, a mistake or without any type of personal effort.

Perhaps the screws were put to Perry and Gingrich because Romney is perceived as the 1% and it would hurt his campaign. Particularly, with the Occupy movements going on all over the country, it was simply very bad timing for their candidate.

Romney did have some success while at Bain, but don't think he didn't practice any type of vulture capitalism. That is part and parcel with many of these management consulting firms. And during the 90's with the deregulation fevor going on, Bain and companies like him were allowed to borrow more and more from third parties, use them to buy up companies and then skim off the cream for themselves.

A lot of the financial data for many of Romney's acquisitions are not available to the public. So, don't think that Obama won't go after Romney for some slash and burn economics. The RNC stopped Gingrich and Perry from going there, but they won't be able to stop Obama. And I think it is bogus to fault them for bringing up the ugly side of Captialsm. It needs to be addressed.
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I suppose as a Christian we are taught not to look back and dwell on past failures. If in his life now he sees himself as repentant and settled as a grandfather, father, husband and happy in the Catholic Church, then why keep digging up that old bone and chewing on it? When does Gingrich get to move on? If he came to your church, would you allow him to move on?
PO, this is not a guy asking me to overlook his serial adultery while he is my dentist, grocer, or fellow church member. He was asking me to elect him to the Presidency of the United States. If out of 330 million people we can't find anybody morally better than this we are worse off than I thought.
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"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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PO, this is not a guy asking me to overlook his serial adultery while he is my dentist, grocer, or fellow church member. He was asking me to elect him to the Presidency of the United States. If out of 330 million people we can't find anybody morally better than this we are worse off than I thought.
CC1, I'm tired. It's been a long, grueling campaign. I don't want to think any more. I'm taking a break. Take care!
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CC1, I'm tired. It's been a long, grueling campaign. I don't want to think any more. I'm taking a break. Take care!
Take care! I honestly hope when the emotional aspect of your candidate falling short runs its course you will get behind Romney. I know that right now you feel that cannot happen. The alternative is so bad for our country we cannot afford to have people not be involved because of sour grapes.

Unlike you I don't have the same bad feelings about Romney that I had with Dole and then McCain. Both of those times I thought it was crazy for the Repubs to nominate old cranky Senators that not very many people liked. In McCains case a guy who half the time didn't even vote with his party. It is true Romney is really a moderate but a Repub moderate is so much better than a liberal / socialist Obama there should be no hesitation about supporting him.
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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