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Old 05-19-2007, 05:08 PM
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he was stabbed!
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Old 05-19-2007, 05:55 PM
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BTW women in that area had in times past wore their dowry. They would collect gold coins and make them into necklaces
http://www.edu-negev.gov.il/mad/turk...ng/PORGA1.html

And Hebrew dowries included jewelry
Dowry
dou´ri: In all Hebrew marriages, the dowry held an important place. The dowry sealed the betrothal. It took several forms. The bridegroom presented gifts to the bride. There was the מהר, mōhar, "dowry" as distinguished from מתּן, mattān, "gifts to the members of the family" (compare Gen_24:22, Gen_24:53; Gen_34:12). The price paid to the father or brothers of the bride was probably a survival of the early custom of purchasing wives (Gen_34:12; Exo_22:17; 1Sa_18:25; compare Rth_4:10; Hos_3:2). There was frequently much negotiation and bargaining as to size of dowry (Gen_34:12). The dowry would generally be according to the wealth and standing of the bride (compare 1Sa_18:23). It might consist of money, jewelry or other valuable effects; sometimes, of service rendered, as in the case of Jacob (Gen_29:18); deeds of valor might be accepted in place of dowry (Jos_15:16; 1Sa_18:25; Jdg_1:12). Occasionally a bride received a dowry from her father; sometimes in the shape of land (Jdg_1:15), and of cities (1Ki_9:16). In later Jewish history a written marriage contract definitely arranged for the nature and size of the dowry.
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BTW women in that area had in times past wore their dowry. They would collect gold coins and make them into necklaces
http://www.edu-negev.gov.il/mad/turk...ng/PORGA1.html

And Hebrew dowries included jewelry
Dowry
dou´ri: In all Hebrew marriages, the dowry held an important place. The dowry sealed the betrothal. It took several forms. The bridegroom presented gifts to the bride. There was the מהר, mōhar, "dowry" as distinguished from מתּן, mattān, "gifts to the members of the family" (compare Gen_24:22, Gen_24:53; Gen_34:12). The price paid to the father or brothers of the bride was probably a survival of the early custom of purchasing wives (Gen_34:12; Exo_22:17; 1Sa_18:25; compare Rth_4:10; Hos_3:2). There was frequently much negotiation and bargaining as to size of dowry (Gen_34:12). The dowry would generally be according to the wealth and standing of the bride (compare 1Sa_18:23). It might consist of money, jewelry or other valuable effects; sometimes, of service rendered, as in the case of Jacob (Gen_29:18); deeds of valor might be accepted in place of dowry (Jos_15:16; 1Sa_18:25; Jdg_1:12). Occasionally a bride received a dowry from her father; sometimes in the shape of land (Jdg_1:15), and of cities (1Ki_9:16). In later Jewish history a written marriage contract definitely arranged for the nature and size of the dowry.
And this proves what???????????????
Abraham married his sister
Abraham had a wife and a concubine
Jacob had 2 wives with four concubines
Are you saying this is okay in the NT church?????

Samuel slew Agag is that permitted today?????

Tamar concieved a child by Judah then he married her is that acceptable today?

There were things permitted in the OT that are NOT allowed in the NT church.
You know that and so do I.
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Old 05-19-2007, 07:29 PM
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Sounds like the name of a song. Rebekkah got a nose ring yeah yeah yeah
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Lawd, how'd she git that nose ring on?!
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And this proves what???????????????
Abraham married his sister
Abraham had a wife and a concubine
Jacob had 2 wives with four concubines
Are you saying this is okay in the NT church?????

Samuel slew Agag is that permitted today?????

Tamar concieved a child by Judah then he married her is that acceptable today?

There were things permitted in the OT that are NOT allowed in the NT church.
You know that and so do I.
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:13 PM
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And this proves what???????????????
Abraham married his sister
Abraham had a wife and a concubine
Jacob had 2 wives with four concubines
Are you saying this is okay in the NT church?????

Samuel slew Agag is that permitted today?????

Tamar concieved a child by Judah then he married her is that acceptable today?

There were things permitted in the OT that are NOT allowed in the NT church.
You know that and so do I.
Any answers??????????????????
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Any answers??????????????????
Yeah ... clear mandates by Jesus that polygamy is prohibited ....as is killing .... you base your ban on jewelry base on a backwoods paradigm and gross misnterpretation of 2 pretexts found in the Epistles.
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:24 PM
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Yeah ... clear mandates by Jesus that polygamy is prohibited ....as is killing .... you base your ban on jewelry base on a backwoods paradigm and gross misnterpretation of 2 pretexts found in the Epistles.
Sorry won't work you and others have said because saints wore jewelry in the OT it was alright today. But when I corner you then you jump ship.
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:27 PM
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Sorry won't work you and others have said because saints wore jewelry in the OT it was alright today. But when I corner you then you jump ship.
And you're claim is that it somehow is banned today IS bunk ... and the fact that scripture does not vilify or ban but rather celebrates is usage means nothing to preacher of the TRUTH????
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