An abuse of authority???? - Page 5

kingdomapostle · #41 07-12-2011, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

I vote this the most confusing thread in months!

I have tried to add clarity and even explained why I was trying to be as general as possible concerning this. Sorry if you are confused.

kingdomapostle · #42 07-12-2011, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Nobody should be disrespected in front of anyone, not just Pastors

True, but I think its a huge difference in generally mentioning sinful behavior and naming people BY NAME including their church...members...etc.

kingdomapostle · #43 07-12-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Do you believe it is MORE wrong to attack a "man of God" then any other random person?

If so how do I know another guy who calls me out publicly is a real "man of God" and doesn't just proclaim himself to be? After all, I didn't agree to become his underling.

The person supported his ministry for years before all of this. Until the status thing, it was someone he had respect for.

Its not wrong to attack anyone, however the Pastor's post was not a personal attack against the Christian's character, but it did correct his behavior.

RandyWayne · #44 07-12-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kingdomapostle

True, but I think its a huge difference in generally mentioning sinful behavior and naming people BY NAME including their church...members...etc.

Agree completely! (And I had to quote you in order to let you and others know what I was agreeing with!)

deltaguitar · #45 07-12-2011, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kingdomapostle

If they felt disrespected I can imagine why they would leave. Sometimes we forget that they are still leaders even if they are on fb and on discussion boards like this one. They are not THE authority, but they should still be respected.

Now the Pastor in which I speak is very vocal concerning issues about the church world in general...etc. and people rely on his wisdom concerning a lot of issues. I highly doubt this action was not thought about. When does open rebuke come to play-- just curious as to what you think.

This is typical of some of these pastors being the "facebook" police. There is a reason why this pastor is vocal and well listened to. It is because he is opinionated and says things that at times can be offensive.

I don't necessarily ascribe to this idea that just because a guy pastors a couple hundred folks out in the sticks gives him any authority over anyone. We should respect all people and should respect elders but this man was probably asking for it.

Praxeas · #46 07-12-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kingdomapostle

True, but I think its a huge difference in generally mentioning sinful behavior and naming people BY NAME including their church...members...etc.

Yes but apparently it was pretty obvious who this Pastor was speaking of. Perhaps it would have been better to make this speech in church instead of on FB?

kingdomapostle · #47 07-12-2011, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar

This is typical of some of these pastors being the "facebook" police. There is a reason why this pastor is vocal and well listened to. It is because he is opinionated and says things that at times can be offensive.

I don't necessarily ascribe to this idea that just because a guy pastors a couple hundred folks out in the sticks gives him any authority over anyone. We should respect all people and should respect elders but this man was probably asking for it.

On the contrary, this Pastor is usually not responsive to the personal choices of the saints but he does speak up concerning things that others may view as controversial. He usually starts the day with a topic and actually INVITES PEOPLE to chime in. He gives place for other leaders and other saints who just have a view point. It's refreshing to see a leader that is open to that kind of dialogue.

Praxeas · #48 07-12-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kingdomapostle

The person supported his ministry for years before all of this. Until the status thing, it was someone he had respect for.

Its not wrong to attack anyone, however the Pastor's post was not a personal attack against the Christian's character, but it did correct his behavior.

Up until now it seems that what the Pastor did was not to correct this person's character but warn others not to mimick the same behavior. Did this pastor contact this individual privately first?

RandyWayne · #49 07-12-2011, 04:14 PM

Here is a question: Did the pastor make his rebuke on HIS own personal page as a status update or did he actually post on the guys profile that he was trying to "correct"?

If it was the former, then the guy who was being "corrected" should have just let the issue go quietly into the night. However if it was on HIS profile (the guy being corrected) -for all his friends and family to see, then I probably would have put the virtual smack down on the pastor as well.

Praxeas · #50 07-12-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Here is a question: Did the pastor make his rebuke on HIS own personal page as a status update or did he actually post on the guys profile that he was trying to "correct"?

If it was the former, then the guy who was being "corrected" should have just let the issue go quietly into the night. However if it was on HIS profile -for all his friends and family to see, then I probably would have put the virtual smack down on the pastor as well.

I was thinking that too (and note, I quoted the post that I was thinking along the same line with so there is no confusion)