Abusive Preachers - Page 5

seguidordejesus · #41 03-22-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

They did not believe tithes was a New Testament doctrine and thus they took a very negative approach to tithing, especially taking exception to those who preached the doctrine of tithing. They had no set plan of support for the churches and simply hoped that everyone would do their part and that enough money would come in to support the church.

Yes, they did not pay tithes. Tithes was a bad word in their thinking.

And again, they had no set plan for support.

BT

Too bad they're not that way still - sounds like my way of thinking

BeenThinkin · #42 03-22-2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by seguidordejesus

Too bad they're not that way still - sounds like my way of thinking

Let me conclude my remarks by saying the Pixlers are great people, who have probably changed some over the years. Haven't we all? Nope! There are some that would not change if the Apostle Paul explained their error to them after having discussed it with Jesus Christ.

My main concern for folks who don't tithe is the reason they don't. If they are trying to figure how to get by doing less I have a problem with that. In all things spiritual, it seems to me in the New Testament, we are required to do more. And I'm sure the Lord would not leave out our money in this issue, seeing as how "the love of money is the root of all evil!"

So, the Pixler's name is probably being mentioned in the wrong thread, seeing as how the present generations are not abusive preachers, as far as I know, nor was the former generation abusive. Good people!

BT

kclee4jc · #43 03-22-2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by seguidordejesus

Anti-tithes? Do tell.

Brother Pixler was raised in an anti tithes organization. I heard him preach on tithing a couple years back at Bro Godair's church and he said he recieved revelation of tithing just as a trinitarian would receive revelation of the Oneness of God. I am not certain but i do believe he is in the WPF. And regarding the question concerning the use of video and the WPF. The Rock Church in Sacramento is WPF and video's their services and streams them online.

canam · #44 03-22-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by consapostolic1

i've always enjoyed listening to bro. Pixler's messages. My former church was independent and attended conferences held at his church, but this is my first time hearing of the anti-tithe issue. Neither did i know about an anti-upc issue because i’ve often wondered why he wasn’t upc? I do know that he was the youth pastor for first church of san jose (bro. Shoemake) years ago and that he’s preaching at the canada upc camp this year. His church has changed a lot recently in regard to holiness standards; i’d definitely consider him moderate.

it sounds like rumors to me, if you would listen to his message ,in these times of distress, he says he still believes in holiness and he isnt going charasmartic as some have accused,neither is he going to chase everyone with an elbow showing.always been independent,not anti upc or tithing.ps most wpf believe in video probably even though they wont say it at their conferences for fear of offending someone who doesnt.

Socialite · #45 03-23-2011, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kclee4jc

Brother Pixler was raised in an anti tithes organization. I heard him preach on tithing a couple years back at Bro Godair's church and he said he recieved revelation of tithing just as a trinitarian would receive revelation of the Oneness of God. I am not certain but i do believe he is in the WPF. And regarding the question concerning the use of video and the WPF. The Rock Church in Sacramento is WPF and video's their services and streams them online.

Pixler is not WPF.

Interesting about tithing...

A revelation from God? How can these things be said? What about the guy that had the revelation that tithing wasn't biblical today?

Socialite · #46 03-23-2011, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Consapostolic1

I've always enjoyed listening to Bro. Pixler's messages. My former church was independent and attended conferences held at his church, but this is my first time hearing of the anti-tithe issue. Neither did I know about an anti-upc issue because I’ve often wondered why he wasn’t UPC? I do know that he was the youth pastor for First Church of San Jose (Bro. Shoemake) years ago and that he’s preaching at the Canada UPC camp this year. His church has changed a lot recently in regard to holiness standards; I’d definitely consider him moderate.

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Socialite · #47 03-23-2011, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

Let me conclude my remarks by saying the Pixlers are great people, who have probably changed some over the years. Haven't we all? Nope! There are some that would not change if the Apostle Paul explained their error to them after having discussed it with Jesus Christ.

My main concern for folks who don't tithe is the reason they don't. If they are trying to figure how to get by doing less I have a problem with that. In all things spiritual, it seems to me in the New Testament, we are required to do more. And I'm sure the Lord would not leave out our money in this issue, seeing as how "the love of money is the root of all evil!"

So, the Pixler's name is probably being mentioned in the wrong thread, seeing as how the present generations are not abusive preachers, as far as I know, nor was the former generation abusive. Good people!

BT

Why do you have a problem with that? Why is that bothering you so much?

Burdened or bothered?

That's also not true. I don't believe I 'tithe' yet I certainly know my heart and that I'm not stingy with giving. I candidly give far more than 10%.

seguidordejesus · #48 03-23-2011, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Why do you have a problem with that? Why is that bothering you so much?

Burdened or bothered?

That's also not true. I don't believe I 'tithe' yet I certainly know my heart and that I'm not stingy with giving. I candidly give far more than 10%.

kclee4jc · #49 03-23-2011, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Pixler is not WPF.

Interesting about tithing...

A revelation from God? How can these things be said? What about the guy that had the revelation that tithing wasn't biblical today?

How do you know this? He preaches at almost every WPF conference.

Yeah that's what he said. He had to search it out for himself. I have the message on cd.

kclee4jc · #50 03-23-2011, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by canam

it sounds like rumors to me, if you would listen to his message ,in these times of distress, he says he still believes in holiness and he isnt going charasmartic as some have accused,neither is he going to chase everyone with an elbow showing.always been independent,not anti upc or tithing.ps most wpf believe in video probably even though they wont say it at their conferences for fear of offending someone who doesnt.

Brother Pixler is def not charismatic or liberal. He is a great man of God and very conservative in regards to holiness.