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03-17-2011, 10:12 PM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
An oxymoron (plural oxymorons or oxymora) (from Greek ὀξύμωρον, "sharp dull") is a figure of speech that combines contradictory terms
Christians that listen to wordly music are not christians therefore the statement is a contradiction
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Unfortunately I fear this is how a lot of people spend their adult Christian lives, determining who is and is not a Christian.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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03-17-2011, 10:15 PM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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Every sin can not be clearly listed in the bible
Galatians 5:21 (King James Version)
21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
James 4:17 (King James Version)
17Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. |
The first verse, yes they are. "and such like" means "Like THEM".
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,
Gal 5:21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
The second one refers to a person's knowing to do what is good and not doing it, to HIM it is a sin...That does not mean "to someone else who things they can judge you it is a sin"...that is obviously more personal.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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03-17-2011, 10:18 PM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
Every sin can not be clearly listed in the bible
Galatians 5:21 (King James Version)
21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
James 4:17 (King James Version)
17Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. |
And the problem with this mindset is people think they are empowered to sit around and think up "sins"...that's a sin, that's a sin too. They end up very judgmental people while neglecting the more weightier matters
Mat 23:23"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others.
Mat 23:24You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!
Mat 23:25"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and the plate, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
Mat 23:26You blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and the plate, that the outside also may be clean.
Mat 23:27"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people's bones and all uncleanness.
Mat 23:28So you also outwardly appear righteous to others, but within you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
Mat 23:29"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous,
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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03-17-2011, 10:19 PM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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I do. What's your point?
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Is it the Wikipedia version or the REAL story?
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03-17-2011, 10:20 PM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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Unfortunately I fear this is how a lot of people spend their adult Christian lives, determining who is and is not a Christian.
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It is important
Matthew 7:16 (King James Version)
16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
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03-17-2011, 10:26 PM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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Mijo, que es eso?
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Era una canción escrita por un Reverend Run.
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13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
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03-17-2011, 10:29 PM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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Originally Posted by hometown guy
It is important
Matthew 7:16 (King James Version)
16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? |
Yeah? So music is the big test eh? Let's put everyone under a microscope. Let's have a witch hunt based on music? Is that more or less important than telling people how to be Spiritually minded, have the fruit of the Spirit and how to avoid the works of the flesh?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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03-17-2011, 10:32 PM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
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Originally Posted by OldPathsII
It is absolutely a sin and I can't believe it's even a discussion here. I'm thankful to see someone saying what needs to be said!! Christians don't listen worldly music. This isn't negotiable.
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So when they break into the Star Spangled Banner, do you cover your ears?
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03-17-2011, 10:33 PM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
I enjoy some good classic pop & rock. They just don't have lyrics like that in todays music. For example one of my favorites is "Come Together" by the Beatles that starts like this;
"Here come old flattop he come grooving up slowly
He got joo-joo eyeball he one holy roller
He got hair down to his knee
Got to be a joker he just do what he please"
I know the author of this thread, hometown guy, will approve of this song because it is about a holy roller!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-17-2011, 10:37 PM
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Re: Christian people listening to secular music
No Christian reads a secular newspaper!
Or browses a secular internet.
Or reads a secular book.
Or looks at a secular painting.
Or buys a secular iPhone.
Or goes to a secular restaurant.
Or goes to secular amusement parks.
Or shops at secular malls.
Or goes to secular coffee shops.
Right?
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