Re: Is the grass truly greener....on the other sid
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Originally Posted by Falla39
Someone who had left their first love, would later say, "I always thought the grass
would be greener on the other side, but it was amazing how quickly it turned brown"!
I have also heard those who said, "IF I could only do it over, I would not have done this
or that!
Also those who said, "If I could only have seen what I see now"! or "If I could only go
back and do it over"!
Then there are those who will say how much better it is now! And there are always some
who are too proud to say, "I made a mistake". This could apply for more than one situation. Anyone who left a marriage too hastily,
a good job situation while angry, or a good church, following others who were dissatified,
or other!
If we are following GOD, we will seek His WILL. If we are following man/men, we will go
where/when he/they go. Sometimes we may need to stand still, even though others are
moving on. I'd rather travel ALONE with GOD, than to travel with a multitude who is out
of the Will of God!
When in doubt...DON"T!!!
Falla39
Good words, sister C.
Also, we should remember that it's not about US or anyone of US at all. Regardless of how terrible things seem to be, it is then time to batten down the hatches until our individual storm passes over and realize that what is happening is nothing but a trial of testing for which we will be given either a passing score or a failing one. We must be faithful in each and every test, for it is that exact test that will disclose our inmost before heaven regardless of what extent we may go to justify our every thought and deed.
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Re: Is the grass truly greener....on the other sid
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Originally Posted by Falla39
Someone who had left their first love, would later say, "I always thought the grass
would be greener on the other side, but it was amazing how quickly it turned brown"!
I have also heard those who said, "IF I could only do it over, I would not have done this
or that!
Also those who said, "If I could only have seen what I see now"! or "If I could only go
back and do it over"!
Then there are those who will say how much better it is now! And there are always some
who are too proud to say, "I made a mistake". This could apply for more than one situation. Anyone who left a marriage too hastily,
a good job situation while angry, or a good church, following others who were dissatified,
or other!
If we are following GOD, we will seek His WILL. If we are following man/men, we will go
where/when he/they go. Sometimes we may need to stand still, even though others are
moving on. I'd rather travel ALONE with GOD, than to travel with a multitude who is out
of the Will of God!
When in doubt...DON"T!!!
Falla39
Falla,
No offense, but I don't think you've ever experienced anything other than where you are right now. I think you only know what the grass is like in one spot.
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Re: Is the grass truly greener....on the other sid
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
And this is true too. It seems to be a problem with denominationalism in general.
I am in reasonably close fellowship with several non OP churches. I can assure you that this issue is not limited to Pentecostals, UPC, standards, or Oneness view of scripture.
The exit is a very busy place in most church denominations nowadays. And as you point, out very often those departing are distancing themselves from their faith entirely.
I am reading a book right now....am about 1/3rd of the way through about a Catholic priest that left and is now a married Episcopal priest. I can relate so much to his early days....the desire to serve, the disillusionment......I had to take the book back to the library so someone else can read it but I put it on hold again so I can finish it. It is called Dilemma.
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Re: Is the grass truly greener....on the other sid
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Originally Posted by ILG
I can only speak for myself. My husband and I pastored for 10 years. For most of those years, I was a true believer. I was completely sold out and gave everything I had and then some. I didn't see any holes in the doctrine. In time, I began to see holes in the doctrines. The fact that people treated us like ........ the whole time we were in the UPC left no hard decisions. If the doctrine is incorrect, there is no need to put up with the ......... The grass is definitely greener. We don't attend church anywhere. I am much happier. I am not saying this route is for everyone, but at this stage in my life, it is the best thing I ever did. I may never return to anything. I do miss community, but since there never was a whole lot of that anyway, I probably more miss the idea or dream of what I wanted church to be more than what it really was.
I cannot fathom a life without a church family. I for one am not strong enough for that and I don't believe God wants that either for us.
I'm remind of the saying, no man is an island. I encourage you to find somewhere you can belong when you feel the nudge of God to do so.
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Re: Is the grass truly greener....on the other sid
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
And this is true too. It seems to be a problem with denominationalism in general.
I am in reasonably close fellowship with several non OP churches. I can assure you that this issue is not limited to Pentecostals, UPC, standards, or Oneness view of scripture.
The exit is a very busy place in most church denominations nowadays. And as you point, out very often those departing are distancing themselves from their faith entirely.
Maybe that indicates that the object of faith was misplaced? Do we put our faith in the church we are in or the person the church is preaching about?
I realize walking away from apostolic beliefs also find it hard to accept other beliefs as they seemingly contradict what a person has been taught, but I was about to leave the UPC in 2005 and had come in contact with those who had left and found other churches with different beliefs. But God led me to stay and my belief system actually changed from what it was before. I can now both rejoice with acts 2:38 and count the sinner forgiven at repentance.
TO me that is true joy when you can acknowledge the work of God in someone's life and also teach them God has more, rather than teaching them without what you have, they have nothing.
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Re: Is the grass truly greener....on the other sid
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Originally Posted by unitedpraise10
I have a question. As a United Pentecostal Church member, I am ofter flabbergasted at the amount of people (our people) that leave the UPCI for other denominations. I'm not talking about leaving and going to a WPF or ALJC church. I'm talking about leaving and retreating to a non-denominational church or something similar. In some cases UPCI pastors have completely taken their entire churches in this direction. (I know of a UPCI church here in Missouri that made a 180 degree turn just with in this past year, and they are still listed on the United Pentecostal Church International "church locator").
I guess my question is, is why? I'm not being bitter or hateful. I'm just curious. What makes some "BOOM" make a complete change like that? Some say it's freedom....but I still don't get it.
Are you a male?
Have these churches said "good bye" to "standards" or certain doctrines?
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Re: Is the grass truly greener....on the other sid
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
Do you really feel like you aren't strong enough or is someone making you feel you aren't?
What if something happened in our society and you were no longer allowed to meet with fellow believers, is your faith in God not strong enough?
I think I understand what you are saying, but at the same time it saddens me to hear someone say that.
No i'm stating I wouldn't be strong enough not to have some church family or ministry in my life.. IF I couldn't meet with believers, I would have to have church in my home. Why does it sadden you? WIthout the body, we are cut off. WE need the body to help us. We need each other for prayer and support.
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Re: Is the grass truly greener....on the other sid
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Originally Posted by onefaith2
No i'm stating I wouldn't be strong enough not to have some church family or ministry in my life.. IF I couldn't meet with believers, I would have to have church in my home. Why does it sadden you? WIthout the body, we are cut off. WE need the body to help us. We need each other for prayer and support.
I realize we need each other for prayer and support, but if you have the POWER in you, you ARE the church. Your relationship with Jesus should be strong enough to help you make it.
I'm not sure the Bible supports your theory. Where does it say without the body, we are cut off? How can we be cut off if HIS spirit is in us?
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