Their loss is Globals gain (maybe) - Page 5

Socialite · #41 02-03-2011, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by triumphant1

I am thankful that Global doesn't draw those old Oneness Pentecostal lines. If I wanted to stay in that paradigm, I would have found a way to stay UPC. Global is very accepting of Oneness as well as doesn't make it a point of fellowship or salvation.

There are plenty of Oneness groups that do not hold traditional standards. I would suggest that if Oneness vs. Trinitarian is an issue, they should find one of those to join.

Frankly speaking, I am not excited about Global being overrun by a bunch of liberal yet judgeing Oneness Pentecostal ministers who get all worked up over baptismal formulas and salvation necessity of Spirit baptism. I left the best Oneness Denomination going to get away from that mentality.

triumphant1 · #42 02-03-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

I would have to agree with what you are saying from what we have experienced with Global. I have enjoyed the fellowship I have experienced, made some great friends so far.

In the mouth of two or three witnesses!

aegsm76 · #43 02-03-2011, 12:04 PM

I really believe the days of a "tight" organizational structure are gone.
At least in the Apostolic Pentecostal orgs.
My concern is that we are heading into an "every man did what was right in his own eyes" time period.
I think there was some good in a basic organizational structure, however it seems as though we humans are really good at drawing lines to include and exclude people.
And both the "conservative" and "liberal" apostolics are guilty of this.

Socialite · #44 02-03-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aegsm76

I really believe the days of a "tight" organizational structure are gone.
At least in the Apostolic Pentecostal orgs.
My concern is that we are heading into an "every man did what was right in his own eyes" time period.
I think there was some good in a basic organizational structure, however it seems as though we humans are really good at drawing lines to include and exclude people.
And both the "conservative" and "liberal" apostolics are guilty of this.

Not true at all (and especially in the context of this thread).

Socialite · #45 02-03-2011, 12:14 PM

GLOBAL warming

Elizabeth · #46 02-03-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by triumphant1

I am thankful that Global doesn't draw those old Oneness Pentecostal lines. If I wanted to stay in that paradigm, I would have found a way to stay UPC. Global is very accepting of Oneness as well as doesn't make it a point of fellowship or salvation.

There are plenty of Oneness groups that do not hold traditional standards. I would suggest that if Oneness vs. Trinitarian is an issue, they should find one of those to join.

Frankly speaking, I am not excited about Global being overrun by a bunch of liberal yet judgeing Oneness Pentecostal ministers who get all worked up over baptismal formulas and salvation necessity of Spirit baptism. I left the best Oneness Denomination going to get away from that mentality.

Actually before the late Bro Robinson died he preached a message regarding Acts 2:38 and the infilling of the spirit at a "Global" pastors church dedication service. I loved it!

triumphant1 · #47 02-03-2011, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Not true at all (and especially in the context of this thread).

So true! Global constantly encourages its participants to set up personal accouintability. I have more accountability today than I ever had in the UPC, and I love it! Pastor Brett Jones (Scott's brother) is the chairman of my accountability board.

triumphant1 · #48 02-03-2011, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

Actually before the late Bro Robinson died he preached a message regarding Acts 2:38 and the infilling of the spirit at a "Global" pastors church dedication service. I loved it!

I have no problem with the message, I do hope I didn't come across as though I do! My problem arises when it becomes a point of exclusivism and contention. I don't want to live in that areana again!

I am currently 2/3rds through my Masters of Divinity at ORU. Under my old mindset, not one of my professors--and most of my classmates--are not saved and are in godhead heresy. I don't buy into that any longer and am not interested in being a part of agroup that would.

Elizabeth · #49 02-03-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by triumphant1

I have no problem with the message, I do hope I didn't come across as though I do! My problem arises when it becomes a point of exclusivism and contention. I don't want to live in that areana again!

I am currently 2/3rds through my Masters of Divinity at ORU. Under my old mindset, not one of my professors--and most of my classmates--are not saved and are in godhead heresy. I don't buy into that any longer and am not interested in being a part of agroup that would.

Oh, yeah I hear what you are saying.

Socialite · #50 02-03-2011, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by triumphant1

I have no problem with the message, I do hope I didn't come across as though I do! My problem arises when it becomes a point of exclusivism and contention. I don't want to live in that areana again!

I am currently 2/3rds through my Masters of Divinity at ORU. Under my old mindset, not one of my professors--and most of my classmates--are not saved and are in godhead heresy. I don't buy into that any longer and am not interested in being a part of agroup that would.

Congrats on your Mdiv. One the longest Master's degrees to earn (credit hour-wise), and one that you should be proud of.