Radical comments.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Who can argue with the truth?

To state that the people on the left say this or that too does not take into account that most leftists "terrorists" are not killers in deed. Compare how many leftists have maimed or killed others over the last 20 years to the actions of some on the right.

Tell me about the left leaning militias and other hate groups that are training monthly. You can't because they don't exist.



However, we have hate crimes and other attacks that hurt and KILL people perpetrated by fringe right leaning people annually.

JD you can't mean this! Boy if that is really how you feel you are surely warped in your thinking! I'm through! No merit in arguing with this kind of thinking!

BT

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

You don't remember the movie about the assasination of GWB? Is it possible you remember only what is convenient for your argument?

Let's see if I understand... Only the right wing conseratives make "Radical Comments!" Got it!

BT

It's easier to try to sum up complex subjects in short sentences.




Influential people ARE responsible for what they say-- on the right and on the left.

People ARE responsible for what they do.

To suggest that actions like OKC and Tuscon happen in a vacuum would be akin to believing your own fairy tales.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

JD you can't mean this! Boy if that is really how you feel you are surely warped in your thinking! I'm through! No merit in arguing with this kind of thinking!

BT

No problem.

Sleep well.

[aegsm76]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_o...ent_(2006_film)

Here ya go JD!

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Everyone plays the blame game from time to time. How many times has the right criticized (blamed) Obama for something that was going to happen to America in the almost immediate future?

GWB was blamed and is still blamed for Iraq-- many believe the blood of the innocent to be on his hands forever.


My fellow Republicans just don't like it because there is a bit of truth to the accusation that some of the most outspoken right winged people in America have been hasty in their speech-- never outright advocating violence, but nurturing the anger and parannoia that makes violence by the unstable few more probable.

JD, this is beneath you...

Do you have a shred of evidence that this guy had any conservative political views? That he listened to Rush? That he read Sarah Palin's book? That he wanted to kill the Congresswoman because of his political views, and if so, are those views "right wing"?

I think you're being extremely knee jerk here.

[deacon blues]

"Death of a President" was the lefty film dramatizing the assassination of GWB. Made in 2006.

To characterize terrorists as right-wing politically is a misnomer. They believe in a totalitarian theocracy---muslim-style. It doesn't even register in American politics. There is no equivalent. When you look at how most Muslim countries operate they mirror socialism rather than democratic republics.

The Weather Underground were terrorists that killed some people and detonated bombs. Some of them ended up being friends with our President and helped him launch his political career.

Unabomber was a lefty.

The Black Panthers are a left-wing hate group.

Lee Harvey Oswald was a Socialist.

What about all the Eco-Terrorist groups that have committed countless numbers of acts of violence destroying property (cars, houses, fur coats, businesses, etc.) costing hundreds of millions of dollars in damage and in some cases people being injured or killed? I can list them by name if you wish. There's about a dozen or so who are on the government's terrorist watch list.

What about those Puerto Rican terrorists Bill Clinton pardoned? They were responsible for some deaths. They were leftys.

Charles Manson and his family? Leftists.

Squeaky Fromm who tried to kill Gerald Ford? Lefty.

Remember the huge riots in Seattle when the World Trade Organization met there? Leftists.

I'm sorry JD, but your efforts to broadbrush terrorists and violent indivduals as more right leaning than left falls short.

Outside of McVey, the abortion clinic guys and the KKK, whatcha got?

Remember, when a righty commits a crime its front page news. When a lefty does its buried or barely reported. Your memory is a reflection of liberal media bias that overplays right wing violence and downplays it from the left.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Your memory is a reflection of liberal media bias that overplays right wing violence and downplays it from the left.

Maybe you are right.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

"Death of a President" was the lefty film dramatizing the assassination of GWB. Made in 2006.

To characterize terrorists as right-wing politically is a misnomer. They believe in a totalitarian theocracy---muslim-style. It doesn't even register in American politics. There is no equivalent. When you look at how most Muslim countries operate they mirror socialism rather than democratic republics.

The Weather Underground were terrorists that killed some people and detonated bombs. Some of them ended up being friends with our President and helped him launch his political career.

Unabomber was a lefty.

The Black Panthers are a left-wing hate group.

Lee Harvey Oswald was a Socialist.

What about all the Eco-Terrorist groups that have committed countless numbers of acts of violence destroying property (cars, houses, fur coats, businesses, etc.) costing hundreds of millions of dollars in damage and in some cases people being injured or killed? I can list them by name if you wish. There's about a dozen or so who are on the government's terrorist watch list.

What about those Puerto Rican terrorists Bill Clinton pardoned? They were responsible for some deaths. They were leftys.

Charles Manson and his family? Leftists.

Squeaky Fromm who tried to kill Gerald Ford? Lefty.

Remember the huge riots in Seattle when the World Trade Organization met there? Leftists.

I'm sorry JD, but your efforts to broadbrush terrorists and violent indivduals as more right leaning than left falls short.

Outside of McVey, the abortion clinic guys and the KKK, whatcha got?

Remember, when a righty commits a crime its front page news. When a lefty does its buried or barely reported. Your memory is a reflection of liberal media bias that overplays right wing violence and downplays it from the left.

When I made my statements, the parameters I set were within the last 20 years.

Within the last 20 years is all I can remember, and some of that admittedly is fuzzy-- based on whatever I have heard or read.


The Black Panthers are not even a viable organization, compared to the sheer numbers of other hate groups-- who in my mind would vote right of center, if they voted (another important caveat to my assertions).

I don't imagine the Klan or any of the hundreds of hate-driven right-winged militia groups voting Democrat-- ever, in today's political climate.

Yes Eco-terrorists have caused damage, but I made it clear in one of my posts that left-winged Eco-terrorists generally do not harm people. I simply do not remember any human beings killed by left-winged Eco-terrorists. If I am wrong, given the paramters of the last 20 years, please enlighten me.

Yes, the left has rioted. They rioted during the RNC, if I am not mistaken. Generally speaking, you won't find leftists striking out to kill innocent people as a way of making a statement-- at least, not within the last 20 years.


I did forget about the Unabomber. He is a leftist.


Still when I think of hate crimes, domestic terrorism, and the deaths of innocent humans, I don't think of the tree huggers.

I do think of the "right".


Behind every stereotype, there is at least some truth.

Folks on the right are not being truthful about the last 20 years and they are not being truthful about the tone of some of the rhetoric that emanates from some on the right--

"never outright advocating violence, but nurturing the anger and parannoia that makes violence by the unstable few more probable."

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Light

Because the left does it you say it's ok for the right? So Childish, you are like the child that says well Sam did it first just to justify your bad behavior

Both left and right are wrong.

You and coadie need to Grow up

Can you show me where this person says it is OK for the right? Childish? Childish are the political opportunists that said "we need to tone down the rhetoric" then used this shooting to ratchet UP the rhetoric. It's sickening.

What I want to know is, if the rhetoric is equally as wrong coming from the Left as it does from the right, why don't you leftists shout AMEN!?

If it's wrong for both sides to do it, then why aren't the leftist shouting "STOP" when it comes to the blame game by that Sheriff or the daily attacks on Palin?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Over the last 20 years, there has been more violence towards other people coming from the right-winged extremists than the left.

Still, my fellow Republicans won't admit it and they won't admit that the nasty rhetoric some people on the right spew have any effect on the likes of Loughner and other angry white people.

Yep, I bring race into this because race has a part in this discussion.


There were jokes a few years back about the "angry white male".

People weren't laughing after Oklohoma City.

They're not laughing after Tuscon.

prove it! This is an example of what I mean...there is no "STOP" please against leftist hate rants. It's always "the right"

It's not "Let's all stop" , it's always "the right does it more wah wah wah"

All the authorities and the guys that knew this creep are saying politics had NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING to do with it. But nevertheless the political opportunists will milk this for all the lies they can squeeze out of it and finger point at the right...what I want to know is, you leftists that cry "It's both the left and the right": why don't you quote Davidson here and correct him? Because it fits perfectly into your mindset, that's why. Because although you say "It's both the right and the left, let's stop the finger pointing" you only say that when the finger is pointed at liberals and not at conservatives