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There they can find plenty of fault.
Elder Strange I hear you but taking John.7:39 into account the Holy Ghost couldn't be given unto Jesus Christ was glorified.
One technacality .. Scott ....
I always had read this verse in Spanish ... which in the Reina Valera does not say the that the Holy Ghost was not given ... but that the Holy Ghost had not come ... of course this is true because Jesus still dwelt among them in his fleshly form.
After trying to find the word given in the orginal Greek text ... I could not find it for John 7:39
After futher research .... I found this:
The New John Gill Exposition of the Entire Bible
for the Holy Ghost was not yet [given];
the word "given" is not in the original text; but is very properly supplied, as it is in the Vulgate Latin, Syriac, and Persic versions. The Arabic version renders it, "for the Holy Ghost was not yet come";
he was; he was in being as a divine person, equal with the Father and Son, so he was from everlasting; and he had been bestowed in his grace upon the Old Testament saints, and rested in his gifts upon the prophets of that dispensation; but, as the Jews themselves confess F6,
``after the death of the latter prophets, Haggai, Zachariah, and Malachi, the Holy Ghost removed from Israel.''
And they expressly say, be was not there in the time of the second temple. Maimonides says F7,
``they made the Urim and Thummim in the second temple, to complete the eight garments (of the priests) though they did not inquire by them; and why did they not inquire by them? because the Holy Ghost was not there; and every priest that does not speak by the Holy Ghost, and the Shekinah, does not dwell upon him, they do not inquire by him.''
They observe F8 there were five things in the first temple which were not in the second, and they are these,
``the ark with the mercy seat, and cherubim, the fire (from heaven), and the Shekinah, (vdwqh xwrw) , "and the Holy Ghost", and the Urim and Thummim.''
Now, though he had removed, he was to return again; but as yet the time was not come, at least for the more plentiful donation of him: the reason of which was,
In the OT.before the Day of Pentecost ,The Lord would give people a power or annointing for certain things they were called to do ,people couldn't seek to be Spirit Filled then ,but God would give people an ability for things they were called to. It was a soverign work of God.In Hebrew it's called Shameam it means to rub like an ointment , this is what John The Baptist and Elizabeth and such had.My spelling of the word may be incorrect but the Holy Ghost Baptism like in Acts.2:4 is different from what people prior to Pentecost received.
Bro. Scott, this is very interesting. Do you have any studies to post about this?
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To be honest, has anyone had the same experience they had in Acts 2?
I haven't heard anyone state that tongues were seen on someone's head while a mighty wind blew.
I'm sounding facetious, but I'm absolutely serious.
Acts 2:4 doesn't say what happened in that upper room that day other than they were all filled with the Holy Ghost AND spoke in tongues.
But in the other accounts in the book of Acts ,where people were Spirit filled did you ever read where cloven tongues rested on anyone's head?
The Bible says that a sound from Heaven came as a mighty rushing wind ,as in Acts 2:2 do you ever find that happening in the Bible anywhere else ?
HO when you received The Baptism Of The Holy Ghost did you speak in a tongue that did not know ?,you did what they did in ACTS.2:4
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
In the OT. do we have anyone in the Bible anyone seeking for The Holy Ghost ?
Yes Elizabeth and John The Baptist were filled with the Holy Ghost but it was a soverign Act of God ,for empowerment.
And BTW why aren't Babies filled with The Holy Ghost from their mother's womb in this grace age ?
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
If the Disciples had already received The Holy Spirit in John 20 like the Trinity Pentecostals teach why did they need it again in ACTS 2.
I'm familiar with a doctrine that says one receives a measure of the Holy Spirit at repentance and then another measure at Holy Ghost baptism.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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