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01-08-2011, 09:47 PM
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Re: The 200 curse!!!
If you have 200+ the pastor probably needs a great staff, to help carry the load.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-08-2011, 09:48 PM
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Absolute Agenda
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Re: The 200 curse!!!
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Originally Posted by unitedpraise10
Why would anybody be happy with a church that isn't growing?? I'm talking about the churches that have been the same size for the past 30 to 40 years. There's something going wrong if this is the case. There are many churches like this today.
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One of the biggest problems in UPCI churches is that 175-200 is the outer limit where one man can have absolute control over every aspect.
Many if not most UPCI pastors won't delegate.
Without near total trust in another that's the barrier.
There is a church not far from where I live been running 150 or so forever.
Five local licensed ministers on the pews, never used.
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01-08-2011, 09:48 PM
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Re: The 200 curse!!!
I think it would be great if families could worship together.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-08-2011, 09:49 PM
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Re: The 200 curse!!!
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Originally Posted by MrMasterMind
One of the biggest problems in UPCI churches is that 175-200 is the outer limit where one man can have absolute control over every aspect.
Many if not most UPCI pastors won't delegate.
Without near total trust in another that's the barrier.
There is a church not far from where I live been running 150 or so forever.
Five local licensed ministers on the pews, never used.
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Well, why are they still there?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-08-2011, 09:51 PM
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Absolute Agenda
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Re: The 200 curse!!!
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Well, why are they still there?
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My guess? Fear and inexperience.
Very few churches have mentoring programs, so there they sit.
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01-08-2011, 09:55 PM
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Re: The 200 curse!!!
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Originally Posted by MrMasterMind
My guess? Fear and inexperience.
Very few churches have mentoring programs, so there they sit.
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That's what I mean, we can blame the pastor's I guess. Or they can step out in faith. I know they probably want to be in the will of God. But, maybe it's just easier to sit. Or do we not have enough churches?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-08-2011, 10:05 PM
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Re: The 200 curse!!!
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Originally Posted by Cindy
I think it would be great if families could worship together.
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I dunno.... I was glad to move away from my immediate family. At least as far as attending the same church goes.
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01-08-2011, 10:26 PM
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Wouldn't Take Nothin' For My Journey Now!
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Re: The 200 curse!!!
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Well Sister Falla, just what have you done recently to help with the increase?
Any news to share?
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Hey, Pelathais,
We started back not long after Dad founded the church. Now those we produced
have produced and the ones they produced are now producing. Both by having children
and by all of us winning souls. We are now seeing school classmates and people that
have known us for years, are coming because of lives that were lived years ago. I could
tell you some great things that are going on right now, but I believe I will just be still
and let GOD continue to be GOD!
Blessings,
Falla39
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01-08-2011, 10:47 PM
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Re: The 200 curse!!!
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Originally Posted by Falla39
Hey, Pelathais,
We started back not long after Dad founded the church. Now those we produced
have produced and the ones they produced are now producing. Both by having children
and by all of us winning souls. We are now seeing school classmates and people that
have known us for years, are coming because of lives that were lived years ago. I could
tell you some great things that are going on right now, but I believe I will just be still
and let GOD continue to be GOD!
Blessings,
Falla39
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-08-2011, 11:24 PM
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Wouldn't Take Nothin' For My Journey Now!
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Re: The 200 curse!!!
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Well Sister Falla, just what have you done recently to help with the increase?
Any news to share?
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Bro. Pel,
Go to the thread "Family and Christmas Pix", pages 4-6, and you will see
what I am doing. Not to increase necessarily, but to keep! Loving, supporting
my grandchildren, along with my husband (who had the flu), to live and serve
the LORD. Someone is going to influence them and it might as well be me, along
with their parents.
Eccles. 1:4
One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob,
Jesse, David, Solomon, Rehoboam,
Grandmother Lois, mother Eunice, Paul
Grandma Lizzie, Dad, Me, Glenna, Philip and Natalie
Falla39
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