Gay Marriage: For or Against?

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by crakjak

I will not argue against your points, I will argue that it should not be "marriage", because marriage between a man and a woman is the best for children and for society. We should not change this very basic foundation of society.

Though a particular couple may be capable of raising children it is not the best.We have no history of a culture that totally accepted homosexuality as normal surviving.

I would counter that, homosexuality, for a large part of history, has been prevalent, and yet society still exists.

As for the other points, I agree not to discuss them. It is hard to argue points from the perspective of an entire group. It is too easy to make blanket statements and/or generalizations.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Actually homosexuals can marry who they want, the just can't call something that is not marriage, marriage from a legal point of view. Society has provided for their dysfunction, but that is not enough they want complete acceptance by society at large. In the leftist world that already have it, but not in the mainstream, yet.

True, they can call anything a marriage if they want to, as can anyone. I believe the issue is the legality of the marriage and the rights that follow.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Sam

If we deny marriage to persons of the same sex it is discriminating against certain people.

What if a man wants to marry a horse, or dog, or a horse and underaged dog, or three wives, or three husbands, or two wives and a salamander, or marry a 14 year old of the same sex, or marry a corpse........aren't we so bad for discriminating against these folks?????

[Liberal]

Originally Posted by coadie

Gays travel to where they can have a wedding.
Kennedy, D. James; Newcombe, Jerry. What’s Wrong with Same Sex Marriage? (Wheaton, IL: Crossway Books, 2004):

What does a homosexual marriage look like? Well, the longest term that we have available to look at is in the Netherlands. Researchers found that the average “marriage” between two men lasts one and a half years. Furthermore, during that time, men have eight other partners per year. — Dr. James Kennedy2

The Netherlands has this marriage since 1990.
People want happiness. It appears same sex marriage doesn't provide that.

The first state to make gay marriage legal was Massachusetts in 2004. How could D. James Kennedy, or anyone else have stats on how long gay marriage lasts in a book they wrote in 2004???

Do you just make this stuff up?

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

What if a man wants to marry a horse, or dog, or a horse and underaged dog, or three wives, or three husbands, or two wives and a salamander, or marry a 14 year old of the same sex, or marry a corpse........aren't we so bad for discriminating against these folks?????

That is a different situation. Animals, children and corpses cannot consent, therefore they cannot legally enter into marriage.

As for polygamy, and polyandry, I feel that if it is between consenting adults, let them go at it.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Sodom and Gomorrah is part of your belief system. It is not part of many others belief system. Why should your beliefs be forced onto them?

Why should your beliefs be forced on us?
You quote is both dishonest and innacurate. Sodom and Gomorroh is a part of history. Not part of my belief system. Sodomy as a sin is part of my belief system.

11And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father.

12And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.

The libs and God are in opposition on what is good.

The libs are pro abortion and endorse the homosexual agenda.

King James Bible
In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

Even King Saul got fired for disobedience and then has the nerve to justify disobedeince by saying he pleased the people.

[OnTheFritz]

The government sanctioned legal agreement should never have been titled "marriage" to begin with. Marriage is a sacred covenant recognized by God between a man and a woman. But that's what happens when you mix church and state.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

Why should your beliefs be forced on us?
You quote is both dishonest and innacurate. Sodom and Gomorroh is a part of history. Not part of my belief system. Sodomy as a sin is part of my belief system.

11And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father.

12And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.

The libs and God are in opposition on what is good.

The libs are pro abortion and endorse the homosexual agenda.

King James Bible
In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

Even King Saul got fired for disobedience and then has the nerve to justify disobedeince by saying he pleased the people.

Their beliefs are not being forced on anyone. They are merely wanting the same legal rights as other groups have. Why do you want to discriminate against them?

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by OnTheFritz

The government sanctioned legal agreement should never have been titled "marriage" to begin with. Marriage is a sacred covenant recognized by God between a man and a woman. But that's what happens when you mix church and state.

Agree with you there.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Twisp

I would counter that, homosexuality, for a large part of history, has been prevalent, and yet society still exists.
As for the other points, I agree not to discuss them. It is hard to argue points from the perspective of an entire group. It is too easy to make blanket statements and/or generalizations.

Yes, many lesser conditions have existed in society thru out history, it is only when they reach critical mass that society breaks down.