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09-21-2010, 03:27 PM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
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Originally Posted by Shingledecker
MoW,
I only know Robt. Sabin by his good reputation. Forgive me for the question, but what exactly is a 3 stepper? I've seen the term used on a few threads but want to know what it means before opening mouth and inserting foot.
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RS does not believe you have to "repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and receive the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues" before you can be considered saved
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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09-21-2010, 03:36 PM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
Wow you are a novice. Lol
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Originally Posted by Shingledecker
MoW,
I only know Robt. Sabin by his good reputation. Forgive me for the question, but what exactly is a 3 stepper? I've seen the term used on a few threads but want to know what it means before opening mouth and inserting foot.
Thanks.
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09-21-2010, 03:39 PM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
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There are still some of us around who hold to a PCI point of view.
Some of us aren't afraid to voice it.
Others are afraid to voice it because of how they would be treated by those of the PAJC view.
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Very recently in life, I was asked about how I felt about salvation and it got to the point where my brother in Christ was very visibly agitated with my view.
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09-21-2010, 03:43 PM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
I was in a non denominational Bible Study with a bunch of bikers a few weeks ago. The facilitator asked me what I thought of the Trinity. I told them I didn't see it as three gods, but three roles given to one person. Almost all of them claimed to be trinitarians, yet agreed with my explaination.
I emphasized it's not a heaven or hell issue. It's how I see God based on my understanding of scripture.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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09-21-2010, 06:48 PM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
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Originally Posted by tv1a
I was in a non denominational Bible Study with a bunch of bikers a few weeks ago. The facilitator asked me what I thought of the Trinity. I told them I didn't see it as three gods, but three roles given to one person. Almost all of them claimed to be trinitarians, yet agreed with my explaination.
I emphasized it's not a heaven or hell issue. It's how I see God based on my understanding of scripture.
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very good.
I would of course expect Trinitarians to not see the Trinity as "Three Gods" since they are strictly monotheistic as well.
I like to say, "Even though God has and does reveal himself as Father, Son & Holy Spirit throughout scripture, we should only expect to actually see Him in the face of Jesus Christ.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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09-21-2010, 09:36 PM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
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Originally Posted by tv1a
I was in a non denominational Bible Study with a bunch of bikers a few weeks ago. The facilitator asked me what I thought of the Trinity. I told them I didn't see it as three gods, but three roles given to one person. Almost all of them claimed to be trinitarians, yet agreed with my explaination.
I emphasized it's not a heaven or hell issue. It's how I see God based on my understanding of scripture.
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Person can mean role or mask and person can mean individual.
A single person/individual God performs the various roles/persons of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost
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09-21-2010, 10:05 PM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
very good.
I would of course expect Trinitarians to not see the Trinity as "Three Gods" since they are strictly monotheistic as well.
I like to say, "Even though God has and does reveal himself as Father, Son & Holy Spirit throughout scripture, we should only expect to actually see Him in the face of Jesus Christ.
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No chance of seeing him as a burning bush?
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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09-21-2010, 11:09 PM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
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No chance of seeing him as a burning bush?
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Sure, but comparing the F, S & HG to theophanies or temporary manifestations is not the same. Bushes don't claim to BE God.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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10-17-2013, 07:48 AM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
RS does not believe you have to "repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and receive the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues" before you can be considered saved
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Has anyone seen this video?
Robert Sabin is preaching. The name of the sermon is "The Promise".
Right around the 30:35 to 32:00 mark Robert Sabin sure sounds like a 3 stepper to me.
I don't know when this happened though. It could be a very old sermon?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7srh_cKAr8
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10-17-2013, 08:56 AM
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That is very old stuff. Not who he is today.
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