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Old 07-22-2010, 03:04 PM
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I guessed right! Do I get a prize?
Yes, you get the privilege of calling him to ask him about it.
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Old 07-22-2010, 03:08 PM
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Wow - - listening to Dan Scott's sermon from last Sunday and he's telling the church about those on staff that he's asked to go to theological schools to get degrees (for the better of the church)....too cool!
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Old 07-22-2010, 03:23 PM
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I guessed right! Do I get a prize?
Yes. you are the Grand Prize Winner.

unfortunately you will need to fly to Nigeria and pay me a few thousand so I can get the money out of a special account.

Oh and as a bonus you get a PhD if you bring a paper you wrote.
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Old 07-22-2010, 03:33 PM
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This is all very interesting, indeed!
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Old 07-22-2010, 03:38 PM
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http://www.newlifeupc.org/about/our-senior-pastor

David K. Bernard is the founder and co-pastor of New Life Church. He is also the superintendent-elect of the United Pentecostal Church International and president of Urshan Graduate School of Theology. He has earned a doctor of jurisprudence with honors from the University of Texas, a master of theology from the University of South Africa, and a bachelor of arts in mathematical sciences and managerial studies with high honors from Rice University. He is currently a doctor of theology candidate in New Testament at the University of South Africa. He is an ordained minister of the United Pentecostal Church International.

He has a Phd from U. of Texas.
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Old 07-22-2010, 04:11 PM
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I sincerely am puzzled at this.

I've shook my head at DKB's spouting the party line over the years, but I never pooh-poohed his education.

If you get a BA in math from Rice, and a law degree from the University of Texas School of Law--the 13th ranked law school in the country--then friend, you are a heavyweight academically.

So yes, it's regrettable that he feels to get theology "doctorates" from some degree mill.
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Old 07-22-2010, 04:16 PM
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This is not a school that specializes in theology. They teach religion, this is a state school for crying out loud.

So the head of UGST takes no classes at the Masters or Doctorate level to earn his degrees

Think about that!!
Wait a second Baron. I went to the site and they offer courses
http://www.unisa.ac.za/Default.asp?C...ontentID=22479

So I would hold off on the accusation that DKB took no classes.

Also, I may be wrong, but it seems to me that some of these schools allow self study and the faculty suggest study guides so the thesis in a topic is way of testing. Im not so sure that should be viewed as bad. Hey, I self studied computers. I could possibly go take the a+ exam and pass proving I learned what I needed to know.

True, not close as far as degrees go, but I don't know for sure this places just passes out masters like candy. They have an undergraduate program with classes/topics they need to take
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Has it been proving this university is a degree mill?
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"[edit] is a distance education university; we offer no residential classes although discussion classes and tutorial classes may be held. Note however that these are not compulsory to attend and are not offered by every subject."

Check it out no class time necessary for that PhD.

I was checking out a program I may start next fall and it would require me to have 3 years worth of full time classes before starting the dissertation.

What a deal!!! I am so glad I found this place. I haven't found their tuition yet but I am sure it will be better than what I was looking at.
There would be no class time necessarily with distance learning. You are assigned subjects and materials and it's essentially self study. Then someone tests your knowledge
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First, I would like to see third party documentation that this is a degree mill.

Until that is real clear, I will assume that is not the case - in spite of Barons assertion that all one needs to do is "write a paper" to get a degree.
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