Holy Ghost 101: Bernard, Godwin, Borat, Kinzie - Page 5

seekerman · #41 06-14-2010, 02:06 PM

I wouldn't strictly call it blaspheming, but the stuff the preachers were doing with Borat wasn't close to being scriptural.

How many places did the preacher scream at the individual "LET THAT TONGUE GO!!!!" over and over?

rgcraig · #42 06-14-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Can you agree that you don't know if Borat was doing what he did in ignorance or that he was, in fact, blaspheming? LOL! For me, I don't know.

First, let me ask - did you see the movie?

Pressing-On · #43 06-14-2010, 02:09 PM

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First, let me ask - did you see the movie?

No, what difference could that make? I still wouldn't know his heart. He could be foolish and ignorant trying to make money. He could have done that to poke fun at Christianity because he's seen stupid stuff on TBN, etc.

Saul was dragging people out of their homes out of ignorance. God saw his heart, sincere for the law that he believed in with his life. He turned that around and used him to a mighty degree.

pelathais · #44 06-14-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

I wouldn't strictly call it blaspheming, but the stuff the preachers were doing with Borat wasn't close to being scriptural.

How many places did the preacher scream at the individual "LET THAT TONGUE GO!!!!" over and over?

Nothing comes up in my Bible search of over 20+ translations. Do you have the exact wording correct here?

Pressing-On · #45 06-14-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

I wouldn't strictly call it blaspheming, but the stuff the preachers were doing with Borat wasn't close to being scriptural.

How many places did the preacher scream at the individual "LET THAT TONGUE GO!!!!" over and over?

That's not exactly true. Act 8:17 "Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost."

So, not everything they were doing was unscriptural. He openly repented, in ignorance or scamming, he still repented out loud. They laid hands on him that he might receive the Holy Ghost.

seekerman · #46 06-14-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

Nothing comes up in my Bible search of over 20+ translations. Do you have the exact wording correct here?

I think it's the NOPV translation.

rgcraig · #47 06-14-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

That's not exactly true. Act 8:17 "Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost."

So, not everything they were doing was unscriptural. He openly repented, in ignorance or scamming, he still repented out loud. They laid hands on him that he might receive the Holy Ghost.

So just repeating, "forgive me" is true repentance? So, you believe in the sinners prayer too?

seekerman · #48 06-14-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

That's not exactly true. Act 8:17 "Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost."

So, not everything they were doing was unscriptural. He openly repented, in ignorance or scamming, he still repented out loud. They laid hands on him that he might receive the Holy Ghost.

They laid their hands on them while screaming "LET THAT TONGUE GO"???

Pressing-On · #49 06-14-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

So just repeating, "forgive me" is true repentance?

Does it need to be harder? He didn't repeat a sinner's prayer. I am remembering Charles Grisham talking to a lady in his church. She didn't think the person got saved even after he spoke in tongues. Grisham asked her, "Why not? What did you want him to do?" She said, "I like them to cry a little bit."

Pressing-On · #50 06-14-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

They laid their hands on them while screaming "LET THAT TONGUE GO"???

LOL! Well, part of it was scriptural. They laid hands on him. LOL!