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View Poll Results: Can someone be Apostolic and deny Christ is God?
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No 31 83.78%
Don't know/maybe 1 2.70%
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Old 05-30-2010, 09:14 AM
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Re: Can Someone be "Apostolic" and Deny Christ is
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I voted that I don't know...

But the interesting part is that I believe Jesus is God, but I don't think anyone would call me Apostolic. But hey...finally something I can agree with you all about!
well, shoot, guess we still disagree...but I don't think they call me Apostolic anymore either.

I believe it is just as the bible states...Jesus is the Son of God...the Spirit that indwelt him was God though.
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well, shoot, guess we still disagree...but I don't think they call me Apostolic anymore either.

I believe it is just as the bible states...Jesus is the Son of God...the Spirit that indwelt him was God though.
Doesn't the Spirit of God indwell you, too? Does that make you, too, a child of God? How was Jesus, the man, different?
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For many centuries, the blood of animals sufficed.
not exactly
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They do? Trinitarians believe Jesus is YHWH?
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  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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For many centuries, the blood of animals sufficed.
Hebrews 10:
4because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.
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Who said he had to be God in order for his blood to not be corrupt?
I Peter:
18For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, 19but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect
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not exactly
What was it, then?

Exodus 30:10
And Aaron shall make an atonement upon the horns of it once in a year with the blood of the sin offering of atonements: once in the year shall he make atonement upon it throughout your generations: it is most holy unto the LORD.

Leviticus 4:20
And he shall do with the bullock as he did with the bullock for a sin offering, so shall he do with this: and the priest shall make an atonement for them, and it shall be forgiven them.
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Yes
I don't recall hearing that in my time in the AG. Seemed like YHWH or Jehovah was specific to the Father, only.
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What was it, then?

Exodus 30:10
And Aaron shall make an atonement upon the horns of it once in a year with the blood of the sin offering of atonements: once in the year shall he make atonement upon it throughout your generations: it is most holy unto the LORD.

Leviticus 4:20
And he shall do with the bullock as he did with the bullock for a sin offering, so shall he do with this: and the priest shall make an atonement for them, and it shall be forgiven them.
The bible says the blood of those animals were never sufficient enough, read Hebrews
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  1. There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
  6. The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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I don't recall hearing that in my time in the AG. Seemed like YHWH or Jehovah was specific to the Father, only.
Then you heard/learned the Trinity incorrectly. If the Son is not yahweh then the Son is not God
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  1. There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
  6. The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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