Since you love to mock Holiness People. - Page 5

Praxeas · #41 05-26-2010, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by yisroelm

Holiness men DO NOT go shirtless in a speedo... Many of us are shocked that the Alvears would fellowship you . Sister Alvear stated that there was a preacher at AMC this year that hated her.... Did he tell her that he hated her? Or did she assume he did because the Scriptures are against women preachers.

Many of us respect her above and beyond any ultra con for her Christ like spirit

Mirth1981 · #42 05-26-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by yisroelm

Holiness men DO NOT go shirtless in a speedo... Many of us are shocked that the Alvears would fellowship you . Sister Alvear stated that there was a preacher at AMC this year that hated her.... Did he tell her that he hated her? Or did she assume he did because the Scriptures are against women preachers.

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Many of us respect her above and beyond any ultra con for her Christ like spirit

Jesus Himself associated with people that the religious leaders of His day refused to associate themselves with...

Truthseeker · #43 05-26-2010, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by yisroelm

Holiness men DO NOT go shirtless in a speedo..

True

Truthseeker · #44 06-23-2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Everyone in whom the Holy Spirit dwells is holy.

Not sure about this one. Takes more then infilling to be holy.

pelathais · #45 06-23-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

No sure about this one. Takes more then infilling to be holy.

Under the Law, God made His people holy by sanctifying them with His commandments.

Exodus 31:13; Leviticus 20:8; Leviticus 21:8 and Leviticus 22:9.

This, however, failed to make the people "perfect" or complete. Knowing of this obvious human shortcoming, God at the same time instituted the sin offerings and other sacrifices of atonement. Again however, following these ordinances (or "rules" along with their "dress codes" and all) failed to bring the people to God.

See Hebrews 9:8-10 for an example of Jesus assuming this same role, only we are the vessels and priests.

And so, even as the prophets had declared would happen (Jeremiah 24:7, Jeremiah 32:39-40; Ezekiel 11:19, Ezekiel 36:26-27 and Joel 2:21-32) God promised to do something different. Instead of making His holy people by telling them what to do, He makes them holy by filling them with His Spirit and changing the things that they want to do.

See Acts 20:32; 1 Thessalonians 3:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 5:23; Hebrews 2:9-18; 1 Peter 1:2; Jude 1:1.

We are made holy and set apart for service by God in a manner similar to the way Moses anointed and sanctified vessels, furniture and the priests for service in the Sanctuary - Exodus 40:9-16.

See Hebrews 9:11-28 for an example of how Jesus assumes this role and where we are the vessels and priests.

Jesus Christ redeems his vessels that were plundered by sin. He washes them and sanctifies them; making them holy by His selection and His act of atonement.

We are simply those vessels He has cleansed. That's what makes us holy. Not "ordinances," "rules" or "dress codes." Jesus makes us holy.

I therefore have to agree with Sam. It is the Holy Spirit and the works completed at Calvary and the tomb that make us holy. Not the works that we do ourselves (Titus 3:5). We do what we do as Christians because we are holy (Romans 12:1).

tv1a · #46 06-23-2010, 09:23 PM

Peter in a speedo?

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Originally Posted by Apocrypha

I just realized you wouldn't fellowship with the Apostle Peter. You DO keep tight company if even he couldnt make the cut.

John 21:7

That disciple whom Jesus loved therefore said to Peter, “It is the Lord!” When Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he put on his outer garment, for he was stripped for work, and threw himself into the sea. (ESV)

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That disciple whom Jesus kept loving said to Peter, "It's the Lord!" When Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he put his clothes back on, because he was practically naked, and jumped into the sea. (ISV)

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And of course we could always go to multiple examples from the O.T. .. but whats the point.. its not about bible... its about your personal convictions, and why they make you better than another Christian.

tv1a · #47 06-23-2010, 09:27 PM

I don't care what personal issues yis is going thru. The attacks on the Alvears are uncalled for. Sis. A breaks the mold. If legalists had the loving spirit exhibited by Sis A and her family, conservatives wouldn't be getting a bad rap.

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Originally Posted by yisroelm

Holiness men DO NOT go shirtless in a speedo... Many of us are shocked that the Alvears would fellowship you . Sister Alvear stated that there was a preacher at AMC this year that hated her.... Did he tell her that he hated her? Or did she assume he did because the Scriptures are against women preachers.

pelathais · #48 06-23-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tv1a

Peter in a speedo?

The underlying Greek word describing Peter's apparel (or lack thereof) in John 21:7, has as it's root the word "gym" and is the itself the root for "gymnasium."

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/...ntry%3Dgumna/s

Greek athletes practiced and competed in the nude. There is an inferential usage of this word whereby we may see it being used figuratively as in the case of someone being "essentially naked" or "practically naked." The most apparent meaning however would have us to understand that Peter was probably "Speedoless."