The AFF Cesspool of Compromise - Page 5

SteppingStone · #41 05-25-2010, 08:31 PM

Every time I hear stories about modern day Pharisees, I'm reminded of these passages:

Galatians 2:4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

Galatians 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

notofworks · #42 05-25-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DAII

Because the APF's owner, and former owner of AFF, Douglas White absolutely ADORES him.

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

I spit my drink out!

My wild guess is, DA was using a bit of sarcasm, here!

Well, I'm proud to say that AFF is my only forum! Plus, they'd never let me on the others!

mizpeh · #43 05-25-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

My wild guess is, DA was using a bit of sarcasm, here!

Well, I'm proud to say that AFF is my only forum! Plus, they'd never let me on the others!

I'm pretty sure Renda was literally spitting out her drink when she read what DA wrote.

BeenThinkin · #44 05-25-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

My wild guess is, DA was using a bit of sarcasm, here!

Well, I'm proud to say that AFF is my only forum! Plus, they'd never let me on the others!

I heard that if you didn't lighten up a little bit on the jokes you might not get to stay on AFF!! NOT!!! Just kidding NOW. Now how was that for a "funny" joke? Was that funny???? Come on, admit it was! I didn't learn my comedy from them Breezes boys or whoever they are!

Been Thinkin

Jason B · #45 05-26-2010, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Apocrypha

I think the right place to start would be the fact that we didn't attempt to re-write the history books and then mass market it as truth at PPH.

Secondly, the "standards" usually only come up because the conservatives come on here to pick a debate... which they have lost so many times they were forced to form a private forum where they banned many of us in its first week of operation. I got banned for defending Kenneth Phillips when they called him not nice things, and I said he was a visionary who was 40 years ahead of the pack.

AMEN. All their forum are private and closed, and from my experience, het're looking for an excuse to ban anyone who questions them whatsoever.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=28665

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Originally Posted by Apocrypha

If they got the total undisputed monopoly on all things true, let them come in here, have a formal debate with limited contributers on various subjects, and let the truth stand on its own.

I agree and have made the challenge to some of those men, only to have them tuck tail and never be heard from again when presented with the challenge of debating a Bibilical topic on a public forum.

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Originally Posted by Apocrypha

The level of bible scholarship on this site is pretty darn high, its not like we sit around attacking everything and anything. We discuss many things and its a free forum where anyone can throw up their hand to interrupt the class to make the teacher look like a fool if they make a weak point.

Another good point, which is why they don't like AFF. You can't say NOTHING around here without someone questioning it. These folks aren't used to being questioned, just obeyed.

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I just don't think that their entire system of theology can stand anything other than uncritical applause.

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by Apocrypha

I think if they have the stones to throw, let them come here or open up their forum to some of us and lets have a formal debate.

Not to be a broken record, but I've all but begged the admin of a certain preachers forum to debate me on tithing here on AFF, for all the World Wide Web to decide for their own selves what saith the scripture. But alas, it is easier to insult someone, ban them, and stay hidden behind closed forum doors.

These folks aren't interested in real debate, or in tough questions.

Apocrypha · #46 05-26-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

AMEN. All their forum are private and closed, and from my experience, het're looking for an excuse to ban anyone who questions them whatsoever.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=28665

I agree and have made the challenge to some of those men, only to have them tuck tail and never be heard from again when presented with the challenge of debating a Bibilical topic on a public forum.

Another good point, which is why they don't like AFF. You can't say NOTHING around here without someone questioning it. These folks aren't used to being questioned, just obeyed.

Exactly.

Not to be a broken record, but I've all but begged the admin of a certain preachers forum to debate me on tithing here on AFF, for all the World Wide Web to decide for their own selves what saith the scripture. But alas, it is easier to insult someone, ban them, and stay hidden behind closed forum doors.

These folks aren't interested in real debate, or in tough questions.

I'd love to debate, I have learned so much from AFF over the years by reading debates, finding source materials I never imagined existed, and learning history that was censored or discussed quietly at ministers tables.

I remember when I asked a uncle/pastor "Who was Howard Goss, and why did folks attack him in his day?" He got a funny look on his face and asked, "Erik... who told you about him? He was weak on the doctrine" ... it wasn't a normal question for a young minister to ask while in student mode. Heck, I gave him white hair asking him questions and using debate points I learned on here.... many times he admitted it was right, but would get you killed in the UPCI.

StillStanding · #47 05-26-2010, 07:41 AM

Everyone gets a virtual pat on the back from me today!

rgcraig · #48 05-26-2010, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Apocrypha

I'd love to debate, I have learned so much from AFF over the years by reading debates, finding source materials I never imagined existed, and learning history that was censored or discussed quietly at ministers tables.

I remember when I asked a uncle/pastor "Who was Howard Goss, and why did folks attack him in his day?" He got a funny look on his face and asked, "Erik... who told you about him? He was weak on the doctrine" ... it wasn't a normal question for a young minister to ask while in student mode. Heck, I gave him white hair asking him questions and using debate points I learned on here.... many times he admitted it was right, but would get you killed in the UPCI.

Unfortunate, but as so many of us have experienced - very true.

Sister Alvear · #49 05-26-2010, 10:01 AM

I love the AFF...thanks for letting me be a member....

Sister Alvear · #50 05-26-2010, 10:44 AM

While we all may be different this is a forum that allows different opinions....I personally don't agree with all opinions and I am sure many do not agree with me but here is a real chance to be kind even to those that differ...Here is a chance to examine and see other points of view on any given subject.
If we cannot be kind to those that differ with us then I even wonder if we are christians?

I find it easy to be kind...most of the time...ha....

I really don't even know 2 UC churches that agree on every dot of the I and cross of the T....

I know some that stand on their turfs preaching against things that none of them do...no wonder they get so many amens....

How about taking Jesus to the witchdoctor? Or talking to a priest about a deeper walk with Christ? Many would be speechless....

Take Christ to the druggies...the wine-o's....the streets....the mission fields... Make and take soup to the hungry...pass out toys to the kids in the slums...preach to the bandits...and in the jails and prisons....

It is easy to talk about those that are a little different than us but before we talk about them we should do more than they do....

Take a trip to the underground churches....watch them worship in silence....

We will not only have to stand in Judgment with the UC's we will stand in judgment with people that are marked by chains from communist prisons...people who were tortured for Christ...people that had their tongues pulled out and their eyes pierced out....
We will stand in Judgment with a lot of people that loved Jesus and love Jesus…so be careful how you judge for with what judgment you judge you will be judged.

And yes I do believe there is a plan of salvation and a whole lot of other things….
HOWEVER I believe in the fruit of the spirit also....