Ohio church's Noise bothers Neighbors

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Dave,

That is a whole lot of talking to say so little. What do you say of Sam's post of these warrants of scripture.

"the Lord is in His holy temple.
Let all the earth keep silence before Him."
Hab 2:20

"Oh, clap your hands, all you peoples!
Shout to God with the voice of triumph!"
Psalm 47:1

"Praise the Lord!
Praise God in His sanctuary;
Praise Him in His mighty firmament!
Praise Him for His mighty acts;
Praise Him according to His excellent greatness!
Praise Him with the sound of the trumpet;
Praise Him with the lute and harp!
Praise Him with the timbrel and dance;
Praise Him with stringed instruments and flutes!
Praise Him with loud cymbals;
Praise him with clashing cymbals!
Let everything that has breath praise the Lord.
Praise the Lord!
Psalm 150:1-6

I certainly believe in decency and order, and all these things can be done in that manner, however there will be a bit of noise.

You may have missed my point. We're not only to do what He has ordained but not to do what He has not ordained. Some will involve noise but whatever we do must be worthy of Him and not for our own gratification. It's about Him and not us. Pentecostal worship, many times, is for the worshiper's benefit. Also, we must take Scripture in context as that changes. What was the worship of our new Testament brethren?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

...What was the worship of our new Testament brethren?

I don't actually know how the NT brethren worshiped. I think NT congregations were set up like the Jewish synagogs and I'm not sure what went on in the synagog for worship.

The reason I quoted from the Psalms like that (with both quiet and loud worship) is because Paul wrote about "speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord" in Ep 5:17-21. It seems if we sing about worshiping God with cymbols, shouting, clapping, then those things may be part of the worship. In 1 Cor 14:26 it seems that psalms, teaching, tongues, interpretation, prophecy were part of worship in Corinth.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Sam

I don't actually know how the NT brethren worshiped. I think NT congregations were set up like the Jewish synagogs and I'm not sure what went on in the synagog for worship.

The reason I quoted from the Psalms like that (with both quiet and loud worship) is because Paul wrote about "speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord" in Ep 5:17-21. It seems if we sing about worshiping God with cymbols, shouting, clapping, then those things may be part of the worship. In 1 Cor 14:26 it seems that psalms, teaching, tongues, interpretation, prophecy were part of worship in Corinth.

Sounds like it might be a good subject for study since most of us consider the New Testement to be our standard.

For one thing, Paul spends a bit of time on the orderliness of a service and I've NEVER heard any oneness PC teach on the subject. If heard lip service but no teaching.

My main emphasis is that the worship we give God should be worthy of Him and running the isles and yelling are not. To equate the worship of God to the enthusiasm of a ball game is just plain stupid. I attended a San Diego Padre game last nite and I even cheered for our team but I did not worship and I think the vast majority of the crowd didn't either. Being a fan of a team and the worship of God are so vastly different it is amazing to equate the two. I go to the ballgame to be entertained and I go to church to worship Him. The ball yard is about my enjoyment and church is about His enjoyment.

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Add me to that list!

If they're going to scream and shout and blast the music, they should be respectful of the surrounding neighbors, and take some steps to soundproof the building to minimize their volume.

Does 'love your neighbor as yourself' not really apply to being considerate of others around you?

[ILuvFPC]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Sounds like it might be a good subject for study since most of us consider the New Testement to be our standard.

For one thing, Paul spends a bit of time on the orderliness of a service and I've NEVER heard any oneness PC teach on the subject. If heard lip service but no teaching.

My main emphasis is that the worship we give God should be worthy of Him and running the isles and yelling are not. To equate the worship of God to the enthusiasm of a ball game is just plain stupid. I attended a San Diego Padre game last nite and I even cheered for our team but I did not worship and I think the vast majority of the crowd didn't either. Being a fan of a team and the worship of God are so vastly different it is amazing to equate the two. I go to the ballgame to be entertained and I go to church to worship Him. The ball yard is about my enjoyment and church is about His enjoyment.

You cheer for your ball team brother and we'll cheer for Jesus!!!

[Steve Epley]

Dave they say if the noise bothers you then you must be too old.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Dave they say if the noise bothers you then you must be too old.

You're probably right.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by ILuvFPC

You cheer for your ball team brother and we'll cheer for Jesus!!!

My God is worth more than a cheer! Too big for that.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Volume doesn't not equal worship.

A double amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Thad]

Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

Thad would like to invite you to his church.

Bro Price does not speak to me Socali