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04-21-2010, 09:59 PM
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Re: Steve Munsey to use R. Kelly with his Choir
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Originally Posted by notofworks
I would have R. Kelly sing in my church before I'd let Steve Munsey preach!
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I have to agree with this statement. I was on a business trip to NC about five years ago and in my hotel room caught SM doing a telethon for some Christian tv network I had never heard of.
What I heard and saw so filled me with rightous indignation I could not hardly sleep that night. The appeal to poor elderly folks to give what they did not have to "plant a seed" and they would get back more was the prosperity gospel garbage at its worst. I truly was shocked at what I saw and heard.
The thought that people lump me in "the same boat" with SM as an exUPCer who has "gone charismatic" is very distressing to me.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-21-2010, 10:01 PM
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Re: Steve Munsey to use R. Kelly with his Choir
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Steve Munsey: Weird, hay-like hair/toupee televangelist--prosperity doctrine is his specialty.
R. Kelly: Rapper, songwriter. Seems to like underage girls. 
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That pretty much sums it up.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-21-2010, 10:02 PM
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Re: Steve Munsey to use R. Kelly with his Choir
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Originally Posted by CC1
I have to agree with this statement. I was on a business trip to NC about five years ago and in my hotel room caught SM doing a telethon for some Christian tv network I had never heard of.
What I heard and saw so filled me with rightous indignation I could not hardly sleep that night. The appeal to poor elderly folks to give what they did not have to "plant a seed" and they would get back more was the prosperity gospel garbage at its worst. I truly was shocked at what I saw and heard.
The thought that people lump me in "the same boat" with SM as an exUPCer who has "gone charismatic" is very distressing to me.
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LOL! By that same token, am glad to use that as a "buffer" between myself and these types.
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04-21-2010, 10:04 PM
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Re: Steve Munsey to use R. Kelly with his Choir
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LOL! By that same token, am glad to use that as a "buffer" between myself and these types.
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Yeah. You get lumped in with the snake handlers. Much better! 
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-21-2010, 10:39 PM
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Re: Steve Munsey to use R. Kelly with his Choir
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Originally Posted by CC1
I have to agree with this statement. I was on a business trip to NC about five years ago and in my hotel room caught SM doing a telethon for some Christian tv network I had never heard of.
What I heard and saw so filled me with rightous indignation I could not hardly sleep that night. The appeal to poor elderly folks to give what they did not have to "plant a seed" and they would get back more was the prosperity gospel garbage at its worst. I truly was shocked at what I saw and heard.
The thought that people lump me in "the same boat" with SM as an exUPCer who has "gone charismatic" is very distressing to me.
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Doubt it....this didn't happen to you. You are plagiarising this story....opps wrong thread. My bad!!
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04-21-2010, 10:45 PM
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Re: Steve Munsey to use R. Kelly with his Choir
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Doubt it....this didn't happen to you. You are plagiarising this story....opps wrong thread. My bad!!
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04-21-2010, 10:46 PM
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Re: Steve Munsey to use R. Kelly with his Choir
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Originally Posted by CC1
I have to agree with this statement. I was on a business trip to NC about five years ago and in my hotel room caught SM doing a telethon for some Christian tv network I had never heard of.
What I heard and saw so filled me with rightous indignation I could not hardly sleep that night. The appeal to poor elderly folks to give what they did not have to "plant a seed" and they would get back more was the prosperity gospel garbage at its worst. I truly was shocked at what I saw and heard.
The thought that people lump me in "the same boat" with SM as an exUPCer who has "gone charismatic" is very distressing to me.
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My difficulties with ex-upers usually far exceeds my trouble with upcers.
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04-21-2010, 10:49 PM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Re: Steve Munsey to use R. Kelly with his Choir
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Originally Posted by notofworks
My difficulties with ex-upers usually far exceeds my trouble with upcers.
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Too true. Many 'formers' are still having trouble with their decision and only thing they can do is bad mouth the mothership.
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04-21-2010, 11:51 PM
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Re: Steve Munsey to use R. Kelly with his Choir
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
Doubt it....this didn't happen to you. You are plagiarising this story....opps wrong thread. My bad!!
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04-22-2010, 12:11 AM
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Re: Steve Munsey to use R. Kelly with his Choir
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
Too true. Many 'formers' are still having trouble with their decision and only thing they can do is bad mouth the mothership.
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When I hear the term "mothership" I think of the comment made by Bro. Wynn Stairs in the 1970's when he and E.P Wickens declined to remain in the UPC. Someone said that they were "abandoning the ship of salvation." Bro. Stairs remarked, "Ridiculous! We just left the toilet and went up on deck to get some fresh air."
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