My New Lady Friend

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I wouldn't approach him. It's not his business nor does he own her. It may be God's will that you be a light to her and if you bring him into the equation you will bring the possibilty of his interferrence. She could become very confused and have a crisis of faith if she sincerely loves you.

Ya, I would ask her father before I would ask anyone's pastor for "permission" to ask someone out. And only THEN as a courtesy IF she is younger and he is a big part of her life AND EVEN THEN, only if I were to plan on asking her to marry me. (This whole 'ask permission to ask someone out' irks me...)

Basically, other then a very specific circumstance (of a nice tradition of asking a woman's father for her hand in marriage), I would simply ask her -since she is the decision maker in such things.

[MrsMcD]

Originally Posted by Sherri

I agree and we do preach and teach it. We've baptized people every week for the past several weeks. We also have many, many filled with the Holy Ghost. But I think those things happen after they're saved by confession and repentance.

My opinion is many Apostolic churches put too much emphasis on being baptized and speaking in tongues and not enough emphasis on repenting.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by MrsMcD

My opinion is many Apostolic churches put too much emphasis on being baptized and speaking in tongues and not enough emphasis on repenting.

My personal experience for years has been that not only is there not enough emphasis on repentance but the act is purposefully shoved aside, probably because it is not "showy" nor lead to emotionalism within the congregation (and we ALL know that a service without overt emotionalism is a dead service).

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by MrsMcD

My opinion is many Apostolic churches put too much emphasis on being baptized and speaking in tongues and not enough emphasis on repenting.

Can one truly speak in tongues without repenting?

Does repentance mean that the sinner's sin addiction is gone immediately, at the moment of confession, water baptism, or Spirit baptism?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Can one truly speak in tongues without repenting?

Yes. Demons...

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Berkley

Yes. Demons...

Interesting.


So a demon possessed man can speak in tongues.

Can a demon possessed man repent?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Interesting.


So a demon possessed man can speak in tongues.

Can a demon possessed man repent?

Yes.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Berkley

Yes.

While still being demon possessed?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

While still being demon possessed?

Yes.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Berkley

Yes.

I have to disagree with you.

In order for a soul to repent, that soul has to cognizantly realize that they are indeed lost and has to decide to live right, to honor God with their lives by abstaining from sin.

By definition, a demon possessed man is not in total control of his thoughts and actions, making repentance impossible.


But yes, you are right and I find it enlightening to realize that although a demon possessed man can not repent, a demon possessed man can speak in tongues.