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KWSS1976 · #41 03-10-2010, 02:39 PM

You know me NOW always speak my mind....lol

Michael Phelps · #42 03-10-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Daniel,
I don't have a problem with this. If the majority of any group feel strongly about how they view any passage of scripture, or what they deem the Bible is demanding, they will form an organization in support of that view.

Even if we do not agree on every area, they have a right to separate themselves. Others who have left have, in essence, done the same thing - separated themselves to their view of what they believe the Bible is demanding/teaching. There is no difference, IMO.

In DKB's position paper, The Bible’s Teaching about Hair Length:
Culture or Command?, you get a feel of where he is coming from. Gender distinction and modesty is important to him. Gender Distinction is very important to him. If others agree with that, they will join up. If some do not, they will leave. We need to follow whatever direction we feel led of God.

Philippians 1:18 "What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice."

I happen to agree with PO on this one.

I don't agree with the UPC's standards, which is why I left. I voted with my feet.

However, it is the right within any organization to make rules and enforce them Right, wrong or indifferent, the concept of "tightening up the rules' is not a foreign one, and it is not indigenous to religious organizations.

I may think it's sad that the UPC cannot be a more inclusive organization, but then again, I'm quite sure they don't think much of my opinion any more, if ever at all. In fact, I think the elimination of inclusion is the end goal, and in that spirit, they are doing a very fine job of "thinning the herd".

However, as I stated earlier, if I don't want to be a part of it, I don't have to be.

Sam · #43 03-10-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

Yea we have one in our church just got his licence...He was speaking in tongues while he had his hand on someones head I guess praying for them. I guess he has not read the insturction in Coritihians on how tongues is supposed to be used....

well, did he interpret afterward?

or was he praying so silently that the one he was praying for didn't hear the tongues?

I guess if either of the above happened, his prayer in tongues was Scriptural....

rgcraig · #44 03-10-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I happen to agree with PO on this one.

I don't agree with the UPC's standards, which is why I left. I voted with my feet.

However, it is the right within any organization to make rules and enforce them Right, wrong or indifferent, the concept of "tightening up the rules' is not a foreign one, and it is not indigenous to religious organizations.

I may think it's sad that the UPC cannot be a more inclusive organization, but then again, I'm quite sure they don't think much of my opinion any more, if ever at all. In fact, I think the elimination of inclusion is the end goal, and in that spirit, they are doing a very fine job of "thinning the herd".

However, as I stated earlier, if I don't want to be a part of it, I don't have to be.

Apparently.

KWSS1976 · #45 03-10-2010, 02:42 PM

No interpretation Sam and he was pretty loud....

Sam · #46 03-10-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

...the concept of "tightening up the rules' is not a foreign one, and it is not indigenous to religious organizations....

When there was a regime change in Israel, Rehoboam the new king, decided to tighten up the rules. Ref 1 Chronicles 10. Maybe DKB is just trying to follow his example to show that the "old man" before him had gotten loose and lax.

Sam · #47 03-10-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

No interpretation Sam and he was pretty loud....

I figured that. I was just joshin' with you.

I personally pray in tongues just about every day but it's a personal thing. When I pray for someone, I do it in a language they understand.

Pressing-On · #48 03-10-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I happen to agree with PO on this one.

I had to read this twice!

*AQuietPlace* · #49 03-10-2010, 03:18 PM

Does anyone think it's even remotely possible that the "outward holiness" camp and the other camp will ever be able to co-exist peacefully in the same organization? I really don't think it's possible. The difference in opinion is too broad.

The leaders of the UPC obviously want the "look" of the UPC to continue to be a mainstay of the organization. I just don't see how that mindset can possibly co-exist with people who don't have that mindset.

There will either eventually be a show-down, or the "non-look" people will just continue to drift out, imo. I don't see how it can be otherwise.

rgcraig · #50 03-10-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

Does anyone think it's even remotely possible that the "outward holiness" camp and the other camp will ever be able to co-exist peacefully in the same organization? I really don't think it's possible. The difference in opinion is too broad.

The leaders of the UPC obviously want the "look" of the UPC to continue to be a mainstay of the organization. I just don't see how that mindset can possibly co-exist with people who don't have that mindset.

There will either eventually be a show-down, or the "non-look" people will just continue to drift out, imo. I don't see how it can be otherwise.

No.