UPCI

[John Atkinson]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Anything else good about the UPC?

I'm thinking..... I'm thinking....



YES! there is a UPCI church in tx that makes really awesome peanut brittle. They even mix a fewe pecans in with the peanuts.

[Sister Alvear]

Wonder why it seems to bother some people if we start a thread about someone's virtures? Had we always rather focus on shortcomings?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Wonder why it seems to bother some people if we start a thread about someone's virtures? Had we always rather focus on shortcomings?

I don't see that at all on this thread. Though we did get kinda sidetracked when someone was trying to make a non related point...

[Aquila]

As Paul said, Christ is preached!

[Sam]

Originally Posted by snicker1986

Okay, I know this is off topic, and I appologize, and I DO appreciate Sister's point, BUT this bothers me so much that I have to reply

If the NAME of the father, son and Holy Ghost is Jesus, then doing something in the name of (or by the authority of) the Father, Son and Holy Ghost is the same as doing it in the name of (or by the authority of) JESUS. Doing something in the name of the President of the U.S.A. is the SAME as doing it in the name of Barak Obama.

Trinitarian churches honor the command to do ALL things in the name of Jesus, they just interpret Jesus words with regard to baptism differently. Based on a oneness belief, the two statements of gramatically identical.

Now back to your originally scheduled thread, already in progress.........

Let me comment briefly. I don't want to hijack the thread. It's one where some good stuff is being said about the UPC.

Over the years I have been on several prayer teams. Some times we anoint people with oil according to James chapter 5 when we pray for them. If I am the one doing the anointing I usually quote the verses to explain what I am doing and why, then I apply a little daub of olive oil on the person's forehead saying some thing like, "in the name of our Lord Jesus" or "in the name of Jesus Christ" or something like that. Just about everyone else that I have been with when they prayed would make a small cross with olive oil on the person's forehead and say, "In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." One person that has made innumerable visits to homes, hospitals, and nursing homes with me is a man I kiddingly call "Father Froelich." He is Roman Catholic in background and many of his beliefs. He loves the Lord, has been immersed (in an Assembly of God church) and has been baptized in the Spirit (yes, he has spoken with tongues and still does some times) but he still likes to go to Mass once in a while and even to confession. When we go together I use his Bible which is a well-marked and well-worn New Jerusalem Bible (a Bible of choice among Catholic Charismatics some years ago). Some times I kid him saying, "Well, you say you are praying 'in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost' but you don't actually say the name." He just chuckles. Now, this may bring the house down here but I believe that both he and I are anointing people in Jesus' name even though he does not verbalize the name. I just like to say "Jesus" when I pray or anoint in Jesus' name. Others may not say "Jesus" but that's the name they mean and I'm sure God knows what name they mean. OK, that's enough from the old greasy grace Bapticostal. Let's go back to following the example of Mother Alvear and saying some good stuff about the UPC

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Wonder why it seems to bother some people if we start a thread about someone's virtures? Had we always rather focus on shortcomings?

Well, maybe we're trying to follow the old adage, "If you can't say something good, don't say anything at all."

Or maybe:
"There's so much good in the worst of us,
and so much bad in the best of us,
it doesn't behoove any of us
to talk about the rest of us."

[Sam]

I was baptized in Jesus name on October 27, 1955 in Elim Tabernacle (UPC) in Milwaukee, WI.

I was received the Holy Ghost Baptsm on Pentecost Sunday, May 20, 1956 in Bethel Tabernacle (UPC) in Racine, WI.

I attended one year of Bible School (1956/1957) at the Apostolic Bible Institute in St. Paul, MN.

I attended First Apostolic Church (UPC) in Cincinnati, OH from June 1957 until some time in 1963 or 1964. I heard lots of good Bible teaching there from the pastor, Frank Curts. I don't agree now with everything I heard but that's another story. Also, I met a 15 year old girl at the Church picnic who became my wife almost a year later (7 months after her 16th birthday). We have been married since February 28, 1958 and we have 5 children, 13 grandchildren and one great grand child. I've received lots of good stuff in the UPC.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I have never belonged...so my words are the words of an outsider...I HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN BY WRITING THIS BUT I FEEL WE NEED EACH OTHER MORE THAN EVER BEFORE.

I have read/heard and saw both good and bad....However my overall thoughts about the UPCI in general are:
1. They have done more to promote the gospel than any other Jesus Name group I know.
2. They have opened up many home missions churches throughout America more than any other JN group I know.
3. I stand in awe of their many missionaries all over the world...more than any other Jesus name group I know.
4. I honor their many programs for missions and can say UPCI missionaries are well taken care of...and that takes a load off the missionary.
5. I honor great men and women that have been and are associated with the UPCI.
6. I know there are some that are quite different in thinking than I am however I pray for them and hope if they know me they will pray for me.

Yes, I know there have been some that were "done wrong" but we are dealing with human factors and no one is perfect much less a big organization. Mistakes have been made and in the process some have been destroyed...however this is the results of all of us being human. That happens among the independents too...

I deeply appreciate the UPCI churches that open their doors to us along with any other group that opens their doors...I think we ought to love one another as much as possible. I am deeply aware there are people we cannot always be buddy buddy to but we can pray for them and wish them well.

I want to be friends with all those that want my friendship...I have no desire to murder anyone.

Often it is strange how people tell things that are not true...before taking sides with anyone we should learn the truth...we should go to the person...hearsay is cheap...truth is valuable…I even heard not long ago in so many words we were leaning toward trinity…lol…when I would say we have probably baptized more trinity people in Jesus name than any group in Brazil.

We believe what we believe but it has never been our intentions to hurt anyone.
So dear ones let us pray for all people but especially those of the household of faith not looking at what color card they hold…WE ALL NEED EACH OTHER.

Good post Sis A.

[Mischief Maker]

Originally Posted by TroubleMaker

Maybe I'm just way out of the loop, but I don't see how this could be true. You're saying that the UPC has done more, quantitatively, to spread the gospel than even the Assemblies of God, or Southern Baptists, just to name a couple of large organizations? More than Lutherans, Methodists, or Presbyterians? They are all Jesus Name groups. I guess I just don't see how the UPC has done more than any other Jesus Name group. I'm confused.

It appears you are so way out of the loop you may be out there in outer space.

Southern Baptist, Lutherans, Methodist or Presbyterians are NOT Jesus name groups and don't want to be called that.

[Sister Alvear]

I just hear and see so many bad things and people seem to forget the good...God weighs all things in his balances....not ours....
Love you folks....do you know some people even say bad things about me because of being a member here...lol...some people don't have enough to do...