Brother Sam , I just reread this WOW , someone said to me you will be surprised who will be in Heaven and who won't be.
Surprise In Heaven
I was shocked, confused, bewildered
as I entered Heaven's door,
not by the beauty of it all,
nor the lights or its decor.
But it was the folks in Heaven
who made me sputter and gasp....
the thieves, the liars, the sinners,
the alcoholics, the trash.
There stood the kid from seventh grade
who swiped my lunch money twice
Next to him was my old neighbor
who never said anything nice.
Herb, who I always thought
was rotting away in hell,
was sitting pretty on cloud nine,
looking incredibly well.
I nudged Jesus, "What's the deal?
I would love to hear Your take.
How'd all these sinners get up here?
You must've made a mistake."
"And why's everyone so quiet, so somber?
Give me a clue."
"Hush child," said He, "they're all in shock,
No one thought they'd be seeing you."
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Sam also known as Jim Ellis
Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
But it also can work the other way. We may be surprised at who is not there. Jesus said many who thought they were going would not be able.
23: Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
24: Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
25: When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
26: Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
27: But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. Luke 13:23-27
Why could they not enter? They were workers of iniquity. In other words they had sin in their lives.
But it also can work the other way. We may be surprised at who is not there. Jesus said many who thought they were going would not be able.
23: Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
24: Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
25: When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
26: Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
27: But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. Luke 13:23-27
Why could they not enter? They were workers of iniquity. In other words they had sin in their lives.
Sin is disobeying God. If I have sin in my life how would that change what Jesus said? If I were a hypocrite Christian would that be an exuse for someone else? Would they be able to say to the Lord Jesus Christ "hey Michael had sin in his life" and that would excuse their own?
Why not address the scriptures I posted. You tell me what Jesus meant by what he said.
Sin is disobeying God. If I have sin in my life how would that change what Jesus said? If I were a hypocrite Christian would that be an exuse for someone else? Would they be able to say to the Lord Jesus Christ "hey Michael had sin in his life" and that would excuse their own?
Why not address the scriptures I posted. You tell me what Jesus meant by what he said.
If you have sin in your life then I would rather address the hypocrisy in your demands that others do what you cannot.
EDIT: I'll elaborate. There are very few if any people that hold to the view of sin which you do that believe that they won't sin as a Christian. Now, since they apparently have a much different understanding of the bible than you, I mean they believe there is no way that they will not flub up, then if it is shown that not even you or those that believe as you can not sin, then the idea that Christians ought to be sinless should be abandoned. So I say find me 10 examples of men with no sin after coming to Christ and that will show what you are saying is possible. Then after you have shown it is possible to live as you think those verses demand, then we can talk about whether that's actually what those verses mean or not.
Im not aware of any sin in my life. Does that make me a super Christian? No just an average one. Scripture presents overcoming sin as the norm for Believers.
22: But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23: Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24: And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. Gal. 5:22-24
Note what Paul says here. They that belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its lusts.
If one has no sin in their life they are a normal Christian. They have nothing to fear from God.
Im not aware of any sin in my life. Does that make me a super Christian? No just an average one. Scripture presents overcoming sin as the norm for Believers.
22: But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23: Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24: And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. Gal. 5:22-24
Note what Paul says here. They that belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its lusts.
If one has no sin in their life they are a normal Christian. They have nothing to fear from God.
Can you name any other men which you believe do not have any sin in their lives at least to your knowledge? (I mean you don't have to name them by name, but you know what I am asking...)