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I would starve myself and my children before I would shoplift.
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I would starve myself before I would shoplift, but not starve my children.
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I would shoplift as a very last resort to feed my children only.
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I would shoplift as a very last resort to feed myself.
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I would shoplift if we had only beans to eat.
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I would shoplift for shampoo if I needed it.
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What's your is mine and I am welcome to it.
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12-23-2009, 09:24 PM
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Re: Would You Shoplift to Feed Your Children?
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I am going to argue there is always another option. Dumpster diving... there is a thought. I know some quite wealthy who do that and enjoy it.
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That is less and less of an option as the dumpsters are changing to compactors that preclude people from getting inside them at all.
It is easy to see many other options in the time that we live, but there was a time when people were eating their own children, perhaps if there had been anything to steal we wouldn't have such stories.
II Kings6:29
So we cooked my son and ate him. Then the next day I said to her, ‘Kill your son so we can eat him,’ but she has hidden her son.”
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Re: Would You Shoplift to Feed Your Children?
Since I understand there is no "right" to free food. I would exhaust every means. The food would not have to come from other people even.
Did you know humans can live on things that grow in the woods? In five to ten days you can grow greens to eat and sustain you til you can kill a few rats to cook for meat...
Just saying, If you take stealing out of the equation, one could think of endless possibilities.
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Re: Would You Shoplift to Feed Your Children?
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Since I understand there is no "right" to free food. I would exhaust every means. The food would not have to come from other people even.
Did you know humans can live on things that grow in the woods? In five to ten days you can grow greens to eat and sustain you til you can kill a few rats to cook for meat...
Just saying, If you take stealing out of the equation, one could think of endless possibilities.
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Seeing visions of a fat man shouting, "Get in my belly."
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Re: Would You Shoplift to Feed Your Children?
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That is less and less of an option as the dumpsters are changing to compactors that preclude people from getting inside them at all.
It is easy to see many other options in the time that we live, but there was a time when people were eating their own children, perhaps if there had been anything to steal we wouldn't have such stories.
II Kings6:29
So we cooked my son and ate him. Then the next day I said to her, ‘Kill your son so we can eat him,’ but she has hidden her son.”
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I would guess if there had been things to steal, there also would have been other options like bartering, working or begging.
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Re: Would You Shoplift to Feed Your Children?
Worms are good to eat and/or drink, raw or cooked.
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Re: Would You Shoplift to Feed Your Children?
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Seeing visions of a fat man shouting, "Get in my belly."
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"I eat baby!"
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Re: Would You Shoplift to Feed Your Children?
I don't get this, but then I did not read the thread either...
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12-23-2009, 09:31 PM
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Re: Would You Shoplift to Feed Your Children?
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I would guess if there had been things to steal, there also would have been other options like bartering, working or begging.
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I think you have no idea what it means to have nothing. I see people everyday who have nothing more than they can carry, sleeping on benches and begging everyday for what they eat. what happens when the economy drops do much that these folks don't get anything from begging.
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12-23-2009, 09:34 PM
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Re: Would You Shoplift to Feed Your Children?
Just as a side note I am not justifying it, I am just saying that I believe that most people would if they had no other options, and there are times when that is the only option.
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Re: Would You Shoplift to Feed Your Children?
Yes.
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