What is the purpose of Hell? - Page 5

Aquila · #41 11-02-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DerechHashem

If 1 is saved Satan loses.

Also the concept of Limbo/Purgatory is Pagan.

Satan's goal is to destroy mankind... even if he's only successful in destroying one, for he knows his time is short. If Jesus died for ALL... and ALL are not reconciled... well... mission not accomplished.

Did Jesus die for all Derech?

Aquila · #42 11-02-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DerechHashem

Also the concept of Limbo/Purgatory is Pagan.

The notion of eternal torments and trials such as those associated with Prometheus is pagan also.

easter · #43 11-02-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

I don't see this as Old Testament Saints...

I Peter 3:18-20 (ESV)
18For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20because they formerly did not obey, when God’s patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water.

But I do see something important coalescing. Do you agree that the Gospel was preached unto the dead for their deliverance at least once?

Yes I do but why would he go and preach to them?I was under the impression it was for the saints,however it would not be fair to the other's who never heard of Jesus.This is why God don't want anyone going to Hell,especially if they had never been told about JESUS.This presents a problem,I don't imagine anyone down in the heart of the earth rejecting the Christ.So he got them all,nobody would reject Jesus in a place like that.Would you?
makes you think don't it.

DerechHashem · #44 11-02-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn

Why would all the following-Gehenna, Hades, Sheol, and Tartarus all be translated as hell?....

Cause King James Translators got it right.

Hell: Hel: Helling: To bury, cover, preserve, literally the grave.

Aquila · #45 11-02-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by easter

Yes I do but why would he go and preach to them?I was under the impression it was for the saints,however it would not be fair to the other's who never heard of Jesus.This is why God don't want anyone going to Hell,especially if they had never been told about JESUS.This presents a problem,I don't imagine anyone down in the heart of the earth rejecting the Christ.So he got them all,nobody would reject Jesus in a place like that.Would you?
makes you think don't it.

I don't imagine them rejecting Christ either...perhaps that's the point. First, to get them to accept his Lordship. Second, to punish sufficiently for their sin. Third, to suffer sufficiently as to purify their nature that in the end all might be reconciled.

If Christ preached to the dead once and salvation was offered... would God be justified in doing it again seeing that he is no respecter of persons?

DerechHashem · #46 11-02-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by easter

Revelation 20:14 And death and HELL were cast into the LAKE OF FIRE.This is the second death.

yup!

Aquila · #47 11-02-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DerechHashem

Why do you give the "thumbsup"? ...you appear to really like this idea. lol

DerechHashem · #48 11-02-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

I've never heard anyone (who believes that hell will be unending torment) say that it serves any purpose. It's simply punishment.

It is not unending.

Aquila · #49 11-02-2009, 06:56 PM

Derek... do you believe that those who are vaporized by God will exist in a state of death forever?

easter · #50 11-02-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

I don't imagine them rejecting Christ either...perhaps that's the point. First, to get them to accept his Lordship. Second, to punish sufficiently for their sin. Third, to suffer sufficiently as to purify their nature that in the end all might be reconciled.

If Christ preached to the dead once and salvation was offered... would God be justified in doing it again seeing that he is no respecter of persons?

Problem with this theory is...
They did not reject Christ.They received an opportunity to accept Jesus as their Lord and savior.
Jesus told us to spread the gospel all over the earth.The one's that hear the gospel since the cross until now have the opportunity to accept him.The ones that don't,the ones who reject Christ,there is no other sacrifice for their sins.Then what?